Distributor Troubles
Distributor Troubles
I'm pretty sure I got ripped off. But anyways. There are 2 distributors that came with my b16a swap. I am trying to keep it OBD0 and I don't know if either of these distributors are even right.
First, here's the distributor that is in my D15 hatch TD-01U
And the OBD0 B16A distributor, from what I was told
And the OBD1 B16 dizzy, from what I was told
First things first, what Dizzy do I actually use?
And secondly, I opened up both dizzys and look at what I found...
Missing pieces
And this was just pinched inbetween the pieces of metal.
So yeah. Really looking for some assistance in the dizzy area. Pretty much positive I got the short end of some stick.
It's such a nice looking swap, I hope the rest doesn't turn out like the dizzy.
First, here's the distributor that is in my D15 hatch TD-01U
And the OBD0 B16A distributor, from what I was told
And the OBD1 B16 dizzy, from what I was told
First things first, what Dizzy do I actually use?
And secondly, I opened up both dizzys and look at what I found...
Missing pieces
And this was just pinched inbetween the pieces of metal.
So yeah. Really looking for some assistance in the dizzy area. Pretty much positive I got the short end of some stick.
It's such a nice looking swap, I hope the rest doesn't turn out like the dizzy.
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Well, you need to stay with an OBD0 distributor if you are planning to run an OBD0 ECU as you suggested.
So that rules out the OBD1 distributor.
The TD-01U is for a DPFI engine so it will not support your MPFI engine.
I think that leaves you with just one to pick from, right?
And that appears to be missing the ignitor?
So that rules out the OBD1 distributor.
The TD-01U is for a DPFI engine so it will not support your MPFI engine.
I think that leaves you with just one to pick from, right?
And that appears to be missing the ignitor?
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Well, you need to stay with an OBD0 distributor if you are planning to run an OBD0 ECU as you suggested.
So that rules out the OBD1 distributor.
The TD-01U is for a DPFI engine so it will not support your MPFI engine.
I think that leaves you with just one to pick from, right?
And that appears to be missing the ignitor?
So that rules out the OBD1 distributor.
The TD-01U is for a DPFI engine so it will not support your MPFI engine.
I think that leaves you with just one to pick from, right?
And that appears to be missing the ignitor?
I do want to stay OBD0 since I have my PW0 and such. And that does rule out the OBD1 dizzy, if that is an OBD1 dizzy. I'm not sure I trust the guy I got this stuff from at this point.
I'm not sure if you looked at the other picture, but it's essentially the same as the dizzy on my current engine. The TD-01U is etched in above the weird code. I've read that the D15 OBD0 dizzy works for the B16.
I honestly have no idea what to believe anymore.
It's a missing ignitor I guess. Not too knowledgeable on the interior of a dizzy, but I can tell when something is missing.
I was hoping someone with the same swap would chime in. I'll continue to google search.
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From my "research" I think I need a 90-91 OBD0 integra Dizzy, which is the TD-23U or TD-24U which came on the B18 non-vtec engine. If that's true, then I'm just out of luck with what I got that was 'suppose' to fit?
I'll keep looking.
I'll keep looking.
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I guarantee you that the TD-01U will not work.
Just count the wires on it. Missing CYP sensor
You will have to modify the Integra distributor to fit.
It won't bolt to the head.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-crx-ef-civic-1988-1991-3/obd0-pr3-jdm-b16a-1st-gen-distributor-took-dump-2911499/
Just count the wires on it. Missing CYP sensor
You will have to modify the Integra distributor to fit.
It won't bolt to the head.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-crx-ef-civic-1988-1991-3/obd0-pr3-jdm-b16a-1st-gen-distributor-took-dump-2911499/
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Found a post from you awhile back too.
And that really doesn't help at all.
Need the actual stamp number on the distributor and the barcode number on the ECU.
Distributor code is usually found on the side of one of the 'ears' that bolt to the head..
[TD-01] Civic/CRX DPFI 1988-1991
[TD-02] Civic/CRX MPFI 1988-1991
[TD-03] OBD0 DOHC ZC Civic/CRX 1988-1991
[TD-22] OBD0 B16 Civic/CRX/XSi 1988-1991
[TD-23] OBD0 B18a Integra 1990-1991
[TD-31] Accord 1990-1991
[TD-41] Civic D15b Non-VTEC 1992-1995
[TD-42] d16z6/d15b VTEC 1992-1995
[TD-43] OBD1 DOHC ZC 1992-1995
[TD-44] OBD1 B16/GSR/ITR VTEC 1992-1995
[TD-46] OBD1 b18a/LS/B20/CRV 1992-1995
[TD-52] Accord 1992-1993
[TD-55] OBD1 b18a/LS/B20/CRV 1992-1995
[TD-60] Prelude H22a 1992-1996 JDM
[TD-63] OBD2 99-00 OBD2 Civic D-Series Non-VTEC
[TD-68] OBD1 B16/GSR/ITR VTEC 1992-1995
[TD-73] OBD2 99-00 OBD2 Civic D-Series Non-VTEC
[TD-84] OBD2 B16/GSR/ITR VTEC 1996-2001
[TD-89U] Prelude H22a 1997-2001 JDM
Need the actual stamp number on the distributor and the barcode number on the ECU.
Distributor code is usually found on the side of one of the 'ears' that bolt to the head..
[TD-01] Civic/CRX DPFI 1988-1991
[TD-02] Civic/CRX MPFI 1988-1991
[TD-03] OBD0 DOHC ZC Civic/CRX 1988-1991
[TD-22] OBD0 B16 Civic/CRX/XSi 1988-1991
[TD-23] OBD0 B18a Integra 1990-1991
[TD-31] Accord 1990-1991
[TD-41] Civic D15b Non-VTEC 1992-1995
[TD-42] d16z6/d15b VTEC 1992-1995
[TD-43] OBD1 DOHC ZC 1992-1995
[TD-44] OBD1 B16/GSR/ITR VTEC 1992-1995
[TD-46] OBD1 b18a/LS/B20/CRV 1992-1995
[TD-52] Accord 1992-1993
[TD-55] OBD1 b18a/LS/B20/CRV 1992-1995
[TD-60] Prelude H22a 1992-1996 JDM
[TD-63] OBD2 99-00 OBD2 Civic D-Series Non-VTEC
[TD-68] OBD1 B16/GSR/ITR VTEC 1992-1995
[TD-73] OBD2 99-00 OBD2 Civic D-Series Non-VTEC
[TD-84] OBD2 B16/GSR/ITR VTEC 1996-2001
[TD-89U] Prelude H22a 1997-2001 JDM
Could the TD84 work if I changed out the plug to fit? Basically a step down harness type of thing? It's missing the ignitor.
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TD84 is OBD2.
There is a reluctor wheel inside the distributors that make them not compatible.
The wheel has "teeth" on it that pass by a sensor that "counts" the teeth.
OBD0 has 16 teeth and OBD1&2 have 24.
Lots of misfiring with the wrong tooth count.
OBD1 and OBD2 are interchangable, but OBD0 is different.
There is a reluctor wheel inside the distributors that make them not compatible.
The wheel has "teeth" on it that pass by a sensor that "counts" the teeth.
OBD0 has 16 teeth and OBD1&2 have 24.
Lots of misfiring with the wrong tooth count.
OBD1 and OBD2 are interchangable, but OBD0 is different.
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Next though. I will convert the engine harness in my EF to the 7 pin Distributor plug when doing my MPFI swap so that the Dizzy plugs will both be circular in shape, correct?
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I may have found a TD22. But its 2 circular plugs. 2 and 7 pin. My EF has 2 and 5 pin. I swap the plug to fit the dizzy and wire the remaining 2 wires to the injectors right? Or something like that.
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They wire to ECU.
I take it you haven't done the DPFI to MPFI yet.
You can use whatever plugs you want. You can even hardwired (not recommended) if you had to.
Just make sure all the wires go to the right place on the harness -> ECU.
I take it you haven't done the DPFI to MPFI yet.
You can use whatever plugs you want. You can even hardwired (not recommended) if you had to.
Just make sure all the wires go to the right place on the harness -> ECU.
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Nope. I hadn't and I didn't remember. This is the first car with an ECU I've done and engine swap on. Kinda an old carb kinda guy. This sort of wiring stuff is new to me. So I'm trying.
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