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Old May 2, 2013 | 04:07 PM
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Default Oil pan choice.

I've been searching and can't find anything other then people complaining about leaky moroso pans.

My question is what pan is the best choice?
Going to be on a sfwd style car. Gsr and shooting for 800+whp.

Are people using stock pans with no issues?
Is the moroso 20911 pan a good choice?
Or is the "drag racing" pan the best choice?
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Old May 3, 2013 | 06:18 PM
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no help here?
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Old May 3, 2013 | 08:25 PM
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Default Re: Oil pan choice.

I run the moroso 5.5q pan and never have had a problem with leaks
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Old May 3, 2013 | 09:29 PM
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I have the Moroso 20911 on three different engines I have built recently. My race motor, a stock ls/v, and a buddy of mine's motor. Two are turbo setups, all are running FelPro blue oil pan gaskets, clean surface, no HondaBond, and no leaks. Snug the oil pan nuts and bolts, I never even get close to the factory torque spec. It crushes the gasket too much. As for the return line fittings, I use Permatex liquid sealant on them.
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Old May 4, 2013 | 04:17 AM
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Default Re: Oil pan choice.

I'm not worried about it leaking. I know that most of the times it's user error on that.
I'm just asking as far as size of capacity. Should I stay with stock pan or moroso with stock capacity or go 5.5 quarts of oil.
Mainly asking if anyone is having trouble with staying at stock capacity oil pans
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Old May 4, 2013 | 04:50 AM
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Default Re: Oil pan choice.

I run the moroso oil pan with the kickout that requires the moroso pickup, and 5.5 qt capacity, no leak.
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Old May 4, 2013 | 08:11 AM
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Default Re: Oil pan choice.

Originally Posted by boostontheD
I'm not worried about it leaking. I know that most of the times it's user error on that.
I'm just asking as far as size of capacity. Should I stay with stock pan or moroso with stock capacity or go 5.5 quarts of oil.
Mainly asking if anyone is having trouble with staying at stock capacity oil pans
I have not had a starvation issue. Running a forward facing setup with a shallow return. Standard oil filter location, LSV with a GE sandwich plate, stock oil pump, running to 9200 rpm. Just pulled the the top end after two seasons, everything looked great in the head. Block is going in another car, for daily use. I left him the option of putting in new bearings.
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Old May 4, 2013 | 09:47 AM
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Default Re: Oil pan choice.

That's the type of answer I was looking for.
Il also be running a front mount manifold. I'm really leaning to the red sized pan since the price isn't almost 500 bucks and then I'm sure the pick up doesn't come with it on the 5.5 pan
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Old May 4, 2013 | 10:28 PM
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I like the 20910 design best because of all the trapdoores and the higher volume. It uses the stock oilpickup and had no issues with my GE 3 maine girdle. It also has a turbo return fitting already installed and a place for a oil temp sender if you like one. I installed one ofthese pans yesterday and i cant belive how bad it was inside. ALOT of welding splatter and even some MIG electrodes sticking out on several places. I feel disrespected getting a product like that and taking my money and not care about what happens to the engine I am putting it on.

I just slide my finger across the welding splatter and half of it came lose so it was pretty simple to scrape of but it was alot everywere and not easy to get to in some places, and there is alot of small spaces that the splatter I have been taking off can hide. I spend 3-4 hours cleaning it with compressed air, vacuum cleaner, strong magnet and hot highpressure water.

The sheet metal that had been used to make tha pan bigger also had edges that was not trimed after cutting it. It had leftovers that could be peeled of by hand before I trimed it.

The aluminium pans should not have this problem. If there was a alu pan with the same design as the moroso 20910 I would chose that one.
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Old May 4, 2013 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by The sweed
I like the 20910 design best. I installed one yesterday and i cant belive how bad it was inside. ALOT of welding splatter and even some MIG electrodes sticking out on several places. I feel disrespected getting a product like that and taking my money and not care about what happens.

I just slide my finger across the welding splatter and half of it came lose so it was pretty simple to scrape of but it was alot everywere and not easy so get to in some places and there is alot of small spaces that the splatter I have been taking off can hide.

The sheet metal that had been used to make tha pan bigger also had edges that was not trimed after cutting it. It had leftovers that could be peeled of by hand before I trimed it.
I would have sent that **** right back, maby it was made on friday or monday,
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Old May 5, 2013 | 02:32 AM
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Default Re: Oil pan choice.

I've had great luck with my Canton Racing oil pan. Good trap design and it's solid compared to the aluminum pans I've used in the past (Moroso and Z10).
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Old May 5, 2013 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by lostforawhile
I would have sent that **** right back, maby it was made on friday or monday,
If I lived in US I would too.. This pan has been sitting on my shelf for about a year so I don´t even try to bother. Business ethics are alot different in US compared to Sweden. Here busnisses are required by law to fix or take back a product if the customer is not satesfied and the product is not used. They even has to pay for shipping etc. The customer can do that in aperiod of 2 years. In US if something is out of stock there are severla companies that have no problem with throughing something else simular to what I ordered in the box. When I have to pay shipping to the other side of the world makes it a big problem.
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Old May 5, 2013 | 11:36 AM
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Canton has surpassed Moroso now that they are making some import/sport compact parts.
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Old May 5, 2013 | 03:46 PM
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Default Re: Oil pan choice.

Originally Posted by redboost10
Canton has surpassed Moroso now that they are making some import/sport compact parts.
They have been making them for years. Just don't advertise it.
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Old May 6, 2013 | 03:51 PM
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Canton Racing 5.5qt steel. No clue about drag but it works great on track.
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Old May 6, 2013 | 07:43 PM
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I'm going to look into the canton racing pans and see what I think. Thanks for mentioning then guys.
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Old May 7, 2013 | 03:55 AM
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im using moroso 20910 pan, no leaks, pretty well made. i would also recommend the canton as well, canton makes some good products. you can get the moroso 20910 oil pan for a really good price right now.
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Old May 7, 2013 | 06:15 AM
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I switched to the Canton 5.5 from the Moroso 5.5 after getting tired of leaks that could not be resolved. I honestly like the baffle design (and weight) of the Moroso better but they both function the same (no pressure drops) on track except for the Canton not leaking.
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Old May 7, 2013 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Aquafina
I switched to the Canton 5.5 from the Moroso 5.5 after getting tired of leaks that could not be resolved. I honestly like the baffle design (and weight) of the Moroso better but they both function the same (no pressure drops) on track except for the Canton not leaking.
I have seen pictures of the Moroso aluminum pans where they just stopped welding them. Never even went to the corner. Turn off the lights, put a light in there, see it shine through. That is just crap. I will be looking into the Canton unit if I ever want to keep a larger supply.
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Old May 7, 2013 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by h22apwrd95
I have seen pictures of the Moroso aluminum pans where they just stopped welding them. Never even went to the corner. Turn off the lights, put a light in there, see it shine through. That is just crap. I will be looking into the Canton unit if I ever want to keep a larger supply.
I have also seen that. Guy I know in Des Moines actually had it happen with his on his d16.
I would def get a steel one.
But the 5.5 moroso is only 250ish when the canton is 400ish. Is the extra 150 worth it on the canton? I know everyone of them can't leak.
Or should I stick with a stock pan?
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Old May 7, 2013 | 09:08 PM
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Its worth it for my uses. Evaluate your needs and budget and go from there.
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Old May 12, 2013 | 05:36 AM
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Tepid did Cantonfinally put a thicker mounting flange on Thier pans? I had one years ago and it was a very nice pan but thin mounting flange and no matter what we did it would leak horribly. I even went to Canton to work out the issue with them and they wouldn't listen to me about he mounting flange. They kept saying how it works fine on domestic v8's do should work find on this motor. I ended up having to buy a moroso pan. If they've fixed that issue I would highly recommend one of their pans.
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Old May 12, 2013 | 07:43 AM
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I'm not sure what their early pans were like, but as I said in our PM's, they double back on their flanges for strength and I don't have any problems. Where was yours leaking from? Sure it wasn't from install error? Mine seems strong as hell. I can't flex it at all.
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Old May 12, 2013 | 11:34 AM
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I got mine in 2011 and it has a very thick flange.
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Old May 12, 2013 | 11:47 AM
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What is the canton part no for the b-series ?
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