Just curious on any rule changes that may apply to these events for this year anyone have any info on this? Ive heard a bunch of rumors about it but just looking for clarification on whether Jason Miller is going to follow suit with OGS in changing some things. Im changing some things on my car and trying to have it done by the first IREV any good info is appreciated.

 

Anybody??

 

We are going to be making some revisions to True Street and Super Street.

Should have the rules finalized today or tomorrow for those two classes. All other rules for the other classes are already online here:
http://irevracing.com/rulebook/index.html


In True Street and Super Street we will still be allowing forward facing turbos and exhaust through hood because we heard those rumors that people were saying they werent.

We will have the 50 lb. penalty for E85 in T/S and S/S
We will have the rule that 50% of intercooler must be exposed in T/S and S/S
As of now we dont have plans to limit the wheel width in T/S and S/S

We are looking at turbo sizes and minimum weights right now to finalize everything for T/S and S/S. We might have 3 weight combos (2400, 2300, 2200) for each class instead of just (2400, 2200) to seperate some of the turbos some more.

We are just collecting data and trying to finalize everything.

Everything else is pretty much the same as last year.

 

Thanks a lot jason keet us updated

 

So any ethanol fuel adds 50lbs?

 

Keep*

 

why not a 50lbs break for anyone not running e85? does anyone still even run anything other then e85 or 98? its so much cheaper, more reliable (less oil downs for lost engines) more weight means more drivetrain strain. I just would have thought as much controversy over what ogs done with the rules you wouldn't do the same. 50% of intercooler I still don't get. cars are going faster then ever and need all the aero help we can get to keep them straight. if its just cosmetic and you want to see a piece of alum in the bumper let them put a sticker up there.

 

I just don't personally see where say c85 vs q16 is going to make any difference at the same weight. It's not like it's making 100hp difference?

 

FTW Fuel is some serious stuff...

 

Yea the FTW stuff is pretty serious but it kinda sucks for the guys running just the regular e85 out of the jug or even out of the pump. I guess the only way to be fair and control it all is to just put a penalty on all e85 based fuels.

 

Yes it does kind of suck, we run the pump stuff too, except for Todd's and only the end of last year. But it does make more power than gas, so I can see how that is fair. I don't know who started the whole front end thing, us VW guys are out of the loop. As long as you can still tilt motors and extend wheel bases everybody should be good lol. We'll see you guys at the races.

 

We are still reviewing possible rules and nothing is in stone until the rules are posted.

We might end up doing a 50 lb. break for the gas stuff instead of a 50 lb. penalty for E85.

As for the intercooler opening we are still debating if we are going to require that at all. There are alot of cars that travel for WCF and dont run the NE events that often. The IREV event and WCF both run the same rules.

I hope to have the IREV rules Monday or Tuesday of next week, but there wont be many changes from last years rules.

 

The 67s with the huge turbine wheels still legal at 2400lbs?

 

That is the stuff that we are working on. All turbos from last year will still be legal. We are just working to see what turbos will be placed in S/S and what will be in T/S and what the weights will be. I have a NMRA event this weekend and will jump back into these rules on Monday to try and get them completed.

 

So what about guys like me that have simple set ups? Stock motor, full weight 3600lb street car on pump gas ( e85 from shell next to my house ) I gotta add 50lbs to race all out drag cars?

 

come to win, its called racing for a reason, the guy next to you may break?

 

Ridiculous to consider adding even more weight to the RWD cars, if you want to penalize because of a specific fuel then figure out how to and test for that fuel.

Or.. since these are "street" classes, enough that they're requiring front interior.. how about requiring a stock fuel tank?

Alternatively, how about just a 100lbs weight break for stock fuel tank.. since we run stock tanks in the supras we have to keep them full as to not starve the pumps, thats an extra 135lbs of fuel.. (18 gal tank)

 

Supra GVRW is 3700lbs, 3650 is getting close!

Also I do not understand the benifit of closing off most of the intercooler can someone please explain this to me.

 

Not Hating but if your car was 3500 that year that would be min weight there are options smaller turbo or cast wheel . The supra probley needs a little weight break but not much the Fwd cars seem to be catching up quickly

 

FWD's have caught up and taken the lead, all BS aside, numbers are numbers.. and the fastest any RWD auto 6cyl with a 72mm has gone at 3600lbs (true street) is 9.2, fastest at 3400lbs (super street) is 8.8, gotta compete with 8.9's in true street and 8.6's in super street.

I may be #1 FWD hater, but the FWD cars have come a long way to the point of just astonishing, the drivers have come a long way too and are much more consistent now.

 

so fwd should be penalized because the supra guys are slacking? and there is a s/s rwd auto in fl that runs low 8's to give you a break would be giving him a break as well.

 

Actually genius, the supras got hit with 200lbs penalty because my car went 8.89 at a test and tune. The weight was to penalize us because at the time the FWD's were slacking. Theres no slacking on either end now so even the playing field, thats what I'm saying. 3500lbs in T/S and 3300 in S/S would even things out.

Where is this S/S rwd auto 6cyl running low 8's at 3400lbs without nitrous on a 72mm.. I call BS.

 

Very true I think the 3600 plus 50 is on the high side but you put the 7285 or simaller on and get the converter back wright then all it will take is someone to figure out how to get it to run to the 330 and its game over for the fwd

 

there is ZERO chance of spooling a 7285 without nitrous, ask me how i know. You'd need a converter so loose that it would burn up before the end of the pass. That turbo has been out for a while, theres a reason why no Supra in T/S or S/S is running it

 

I believe that the converter technology is there just will take someone to spend a few grand to get it think about it people had a hard time spooling p trim turbines a few years ago