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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 01:09 PM
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im looking for ways to add horsepower to my hatch while staying in budget i was looking to do a y8 head swap to my y7 block. any sugestions on that or easy horsepower it be much appritiated??
Old Apr 21, 2013 | 01:23 PM
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whats your budget?
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any sugestions on that or easy horsepower?
No such thing.
Old Apr 21, 2013 | 01:29 PM
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No. Especially from a D series motor.
Old Apr 21, 2013 | 01:29 PM
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x2^

best bang for buck HP wise is boost with the d-series don't waste time and money with bolt on's that will net you "maybe" 10-15 whp(IF THAT) at the end of the day.
Old Apr 21, 2013 | 01:58 PM
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boost, supercharge, or spray.
no quick way to add power. gotta pay to play.

and bolt ons dont add much power around 10-15hp at most.
Old Apr 21, 2013 | 02:00 PM
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boost, supercharge, or spray.
no quick way to add power. gotta pay to play.

and bolt ons dont add much power around 10-15hp at most.
turbo>supercharger afaik they don't even have them for the d-series. spray is temporary and you can only run so much before you risk the internals and it's not that cheap as far as hp to coast ratio.
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Superchargers exist for the D, they're just hard to find. Regardless, parasitic loss makes them...kind of silly to use on the gutless D16. Spray is also illegal in most (if not all) states. A home made turbo setup can be done well for $1500-$2000, or an LS swap can be had for less than a grand.
Old Apr 22, 2013 | 05:43 PM
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im looking to spend no more then 1000 to start. and are u all sugesting not to do a head swap?? right now i have the idea of just haveing an all motor hatch untill i can gwet a full time job
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Save more money.
Old Apr 22, 2013 | 05:56 PM
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All motor? Swap that single cam then
Old Apr 22, 2013 | 06:15 PM
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for now i want to stay w the single cam untill im done paying off my car. would u sugest doing the head swap to a y8 or would a z6 be better cuz i do want to make it v-tec
Old Apr 22, 2013 | 06:24 PM
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Save your money til you plan out exactly what you want, then you can sell the single cam swapto use for something else. Unless you plan on boosting the single cam then no pint in keeping it or modifying it.
Old Apr 22, 2013 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by hatchbacks4life
for now i want to stay w the single cam untill im done paying off my car. would u sugest doing the head swap to a y8 or would a z6 be better cuz i do want to make it v-tec
When doing head swaps/ mini me. It best to stay the same obd. So yea y8.

Next all motor d16 that I have seen have made a max of 180hp with a ton of work and dollars.

If u have a y7 dx. The best bang for you money is y8 head alone with intake manifold and injectors.
Then y8 trans and get a nice exhaust so it can breath out.
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Don't bother doing a mini-me swap. You won't gain much, if anything. Saying a y8 head is the "best bang for your buck" is one of the more comical things I've read this week. For the cost of the complete head, you might gain 8 BHP and 3 TQ. If you have a grand to spend, save up another grand and boost it, or start piecing together a B swap.

It's not about (not) going faster now, it's about spending smart for the future. You'd be better off spending that grand on a 19T or GT28RS, manifold, and downpipe, then buying the other mission-critical pieces and parts when you have the money.
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Originally Posted by hatchbacks4life
for now i want to stay w the single cam untill im done paying off my car. would u sugest doing the head swap to a y8 or would a z6 be better cuz i do want to make it v-tec
No.
Old Apr 23, 2013 | 05:04 AM
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as mentioned already. do not go wasting money on a single cam , unless you are boosting. all motor is going to cost you an arm and a leg to get any real power out of it. you would never be happy either, knowing that you paid 10x more to have as much hp as a stock swap in some cases.
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Save another 500$ or so and source a LS swap.
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as mentioned already. do not go wasting money on a single cam , unless you are boosting. all motor is going to cost you an arm and a leg to get any real power out of it. you would never be happy either, knowing that you paid 10x more to have as much hp as a stock swap in some cases.
"Real" power is not possible out of an N/A D series motor, period. It's not even a question of cost, it's a question of physical possibility. It just can't be done. Sleeve sizing prevents boring it out enough, deck height prevents stroking it out enough, cam limitation prevents it from breathing well enough. 150-200 is not real power.
Old Apr 23, 2013 | 08:23 AM
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Quick HP? B16A2 Swap :D
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 09:47 AM
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i shouldn't of used the term "real" when referring to power gains on a n/a d series lol.
Old Apr 23, 2013 | 10:44 AM
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ok thank u all for ur in put. so i should just bost the single cam instead
Old Apr 23, 2013 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by hatchbacks4life
ok thank u all for ur in put. so i should just bost the single cam instead
I believe it all depends on how much experience you have with turbo'd vehicles, and how much time you want to invest in it. You can't just slap a turbo on the car and expect it to work perfectly. Do some research on the builds for the D-series engines, and compare it to B-series engine swaps.

Personally, if I were you, i'd just swap to a good B-series engine. Keep it N/A until you Research and save for a turbo build for the B-series.
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I just did new i/m, cai, tb and new gaskets. Along with new headers and exhaust. I regret it.

Boost or swap. No other way with a d. The cost is "to damn high" for what you get.

Ive got a y8.



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