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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 08:53 PM
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-EdelBrock JG intake manifold
-DC 4-2-1 Carb Header
-OEM CAT
-AEM CAI GSR
-2.5 Inch Piping with RSR muffler
-Crower stage 2, camshafts
-Crower titanium springs and retainers
-stage 2 port and polish
-AEM cam gears
-5 angle valve job (stock valves).....head was sent to the machine shop prior to being built, resurfaced, valve job, ect.
-RC 310cc injectors
-Type R water and oil pump
-ARP head studs and ARP connecting rod bolts

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-block resurfaced and bored over .75
-ACL race bearings (rods, main, and crankshaft)
-jdm b16 high compression pistons pr3 (bored over .75)
-stock gsr crank and gsr rods


https://www.box.com/s/hxh8ds7ev1aw9ix0wjl3 here is the graph

and a video
https://www.box.com/s/8rby3np7pn6cwpzr9hto

Sean Church informed me that intake manifold is too big for the build, If i get a race header like a kid racing and a test pipe, and a 1 layer head gasket, would i be able to rev to 9k while making power?
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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 09:47 PM
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The stock cat is killing you. If you can, get a high-flow cat on there, and a header with a 2.5" collector. If you need to keep stock-looking for CARB, try a JDM ITR header. With a heat shield it looks stock.

I'd get a high flow cat -- I'm not a fan of test pipes.
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Old Apr 2, 2013 | 09:41 AM
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whats so special about 9000rpm? Thats 1200 more rpm....not happening with a mild build and only subtle upgrades.

do you trust Sean church? He's done enough tuning that i'd listen to him before ANYONE on the internet. Did he give you any recommendations? Did you ask? Did you discuss any goals with him or ask for any other recommendations?

any specific questions or were you just looking for confirmation or someone to say he is wrong? Cuz you arent getting another 1200rpm of power from a little compression and a header with better design specs.
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Old Apr 2, 2013 | 01:30 PM
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here is the video of the person i bought the motor from... he is making power up to 9k rpm with crower 403, only changes i made are Crower stage 2 cams, and i have a cat and he does not...
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Old Apr 2, 2013 | 04:01 PM
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Default Re: GSR build need your thoughts

that motor seemed to peak at around 7700 rpm or so if im not mistaken notice the arc where the power started to drop it wasnt making power to 9k rpm
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Old Apr 2, 2013 | 05:28 PM
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His dyno or my dyno, yeah i know mine died at 7700, but his seems to climb all the way to 9000
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Old Apr 2, 2013 | 05:39 PM
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Climbing means making more power. His stops making more power before 8000 which means it peaks there. It does appear to carry power better than yours tho
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Old Apr 2, 2013 | 05:52 PM
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if your referring to the victor X.. I feel the same as sean church. that manifold was not meant for N/A motors like yours. The Performer X manifold IS better suited for your motor.. goodluck
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Old Apr 2, 2013 | 06:13 PM
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Default Re: GSR build need your thoughts

I have the JG edelbrock manifold the 1st gen
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Old Apr 2, 2013 | 06:36 PM
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https://honda-tech.com/forums/tech-misc-15/deep-thoughts-intake-manifold-design-214097/
and
https://honda-tech.com/forums/tech-misc-15/jg-edelbrock-intake-manifold-270591/
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 08:01 PM
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Default Re: GSR build need your thoughts

update with some more numbers

got a skunk 2 manifold instead of the Edelbrock
Tri y rep header
3 Inch type R intake
and deleted my cat

and heres the new graph
https://www.box.com/s/qouv6oupbse5eq57p7u6

210 WHP with 150 TQ should be 200 WHP on the dyno jet
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 08:24 PM
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Looks like a fun car
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 09:27 PM
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I agree with Church re the Victor X IM. That was designed for short duration camshafts and boost applications. The new Skunk IMs have Cosworth style design. If you are patient Blox might make Cosworth style IM.
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 12:18 AM
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Plus get rid of those RCs and get some RDX or Bosch injector (like ID). Big gains U will see.
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 04:20 AM
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Default Re: GSR build need your thoughts

Originally Posted by koczeka
Plus get rid of those RCs and get some RDX or Bosch injector (like ID). Big gains U will see.
A better spray pattern should easily help with whp gains across the board.

I would also recommend a PerformerX or a modded pX manifold over a skunk2 / Victor for this setup.
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 06:07 PM
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so RDX injectors? what else can i do to increase power rather then bigger cams
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Old Apr 27, 2013 | 05:53 PM
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Velocity stack makes a difference Id also Iisolate your filter/vstack with sheetmetal to isolate heat and get colder air. Id also do a hytech replica header and do header wrap. Skunk2 pro 2's are good cams if you decide to change cams
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