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Brake Line p/n's with ABS delete?

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Old Mar 27, 2013 | 09:12 PM
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Default Brake Line p/n's with ABS delete?

I have been looking at some brake line diagrams and I am wondering what I need exactly to make this happen.

I am working with a 95 EX equipped w/ ABS and disk brakes all the way around. To my understanding, I remove the union valve (where a prop valve would normally be) which leads to the ABS module and then it runs the front lines to the unions in the fender wells.

I have a few questions for all of this. Keep in mind, I plan to do a brake tuck in the future. Having said that, here are the the questions:

Can I use my factory brake MC? If I understand correctly, the fittings are M12x1.0 (or something like that), Where the non-ABS MC are M10x1.0 IIRC. I want to get factory lines from the MC, to the CORRECT prop valve, and to the wheel wells.

If I have to change the MC, are the brake boosters the same across all models?

The other question is when I removed the ABS on my shell, the line nut on one of the rear lines was stripped out and I had to cut the line just behind it (maybe less than an inch?). I'll have to put a new nut on it and flare it but will it be possible to stretch the line to reach where it needs to go?
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 06:45 AM
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Default Re: Brake Line p/n's with ABS delete?

The correct lines come from a '95 non ABS coupe/sedan. If you're only doing the brake lines you can use '92 - '94 lines ('95 only has a different fuel feed line)

You want a '94 - '97 Integra RS master cylinder. This will bolt to an ABS brake booster, non ABS models use a different brake booster that wont work with this master cylinder.
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 09:09 AM
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Default Re: Brake Line p/n's with ABS delete?

Will I need lines from a specific model? Meaning, will the lines differ if I get the brake lines from a model with disk brakes in the rear versus drum brakes in the rear?
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 09:19 AM
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You want them from a model with drums, all coupes and sedans with rear discs had ABS.
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 09:22 AM
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Default Re: Brake Line p/n's with ABS delete?

So the prop valve and lines from ANY model EG 92-95 civic with rear drums will work?

I recorded these part numbers a few months ago, thinking they would be what I need. Can you confirm these for me?

79725-SR3-000
79722-SR3-000
79721-SR3-000

And also what prop valve (3040 or 4040) will I need to make this transition?
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 09:33 AM
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The prop valve should come from a '94 - '97 RS Integra (you can use a '90 - '93 Integra version as well, but you'll need to swap the bracket for one from a '92 - '95 Civic)

Front lines can come from any '92 - '95 Civic without ABS ('94 - '97 RS Integra should work for the front lines as well. Rear lines need come from a coupe/sedan specifically due to the hatchback being shorter overall. Again they need to come from a non-ABS model.

Those part numbers are all for heater hoses
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 10:03 AM
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Default Re: Brake Line p/n's with ABS delete?

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The prop valve should come from a '94 - '97 RS Integra (you can use a '90 - '93 Integra version as well, but you'll need to swap the bracket for one from a '92 - '95 Civic)

Front lines can come from any '92 - '95 Civic without ABS ('94 - '97 RS Integra should work for the front lines as well. Rear lines need come from a coupe/sedan specifically due to the hatchback being shorter overall. Again they need to come from a non-ABS model.

Those part numbers are all for heater hoses
So silly of me.

Here's the diagram I am working my thoughts off of.
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 10:17 AM
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Default Re: Brake Line p/n's with ABS delete?

You want 9, 11, 6, 7, 8, and 12
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 10:22 AM
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Default Re: Brake Line p/n's with ABS delete?

Originally Posted by 94EG8
You want 9, 11, 6, 7, 8, and 12
So my existing rear lines will not bolt up to the non-ABS propvalve? It is an EH9 sedan if it helps.
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 10:24 AM
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So my existing rear lines will not bolt up to the non-ABS propvalve? It is an EH9 sedan if it helps.
No.

Edit: Actually they might.
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 10:48 AM
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Default Re: Brake Line p/n's with ABS delete?

Originally Posted by 94EG8
No.

Edit: Actually they might.
Love this response lol.
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