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Old Mar 13, 2013 | 01:29 PM
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I swapped out my f22b2 with another one but when I turned on my car with the new engine for the first time it fired up just fine and sounds like its running normal but my parking light that says D4 on it is blinking. Anyone knows what that means? My car is automatic. If it makes a difference.
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Old Mar 13, 2013 | 03:32 PM
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You may have forgot to hook something back up with the transmission.
If you jumper the blue two wire connector the D4 light will blink a code(just like a CEL code) get the code, and check the system related to the issue. Probably just a loose connection with a shift solenoid/VSS or ground wire when you were reassembling all the components.
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 05:36 PM
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turns out I got a 95 f22b2. what's Do I need to know about the difference between the 97 b2 and the 95 b2. I took off the shift solenoid and the connection it plugs in to is damaged a lil bit so i'm going to look for another one a junkyard
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 05:48 PM
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turns out I got a 95 f22b2. what's Do I need to know about the difference between the 97 b2 and the 95 b2. I took off the shift solenoid and the connection it plugs in to is damaged a lil bit so i'm going to look for another one a junkyard
Why not do the free and easy thing first, pull the code.

Only difference between the 94/5 & 96/97 is the B2 engine has a crank sensor and IIRC the TCU is integrated with the ECU into a PCM on the 96-97s.
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 02:56 PM
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I changed the two connections to the transmission solenoid and so far my d4 stopped blinking. Now I'm having misfire codes on all cylinders and my check engine light blinks every once in awhile when I stay at 60mph. I changed the spark plugs, wires, distributor cap and rotor so far. Any edvice on what to look into to fix the problem?
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 02:57 PM
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The codes are p0301,2,3 & 4
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 03:57 PM
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Misfire detected in cylinders 1, 2, 3 & 4.


Did you have a compression test caries out on the new engine? Or checked the valve clearances?

Did you swap any wiring when you went from the original OBD2 97 F22B2 to the 95 OBD1 F22B2?

The usual suspects for those codes are;
Fuel injectors
Fuel injector circuit
Ignition system
Low Compression
Valve clearance
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 04:49 PM
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I didn't do the swap so I'm not too sure. from what believe he used the wiring that came with the 95 and didn't swap anything over from the 97. is there something specific I should ask him about to see if he did it? he did let me know about a sensor that was near the distributor cap that was moved to where the timing belt is but he didn't tell me what he did about it. About the compression and valve clearance I didn't have them checked yet but I was thinking that's what I should check next.
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 08:40 PM
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Now I'm having misfire codes on all cylinders and my check engine light blinks every once in awhile when I stay at 60mph.
Misfire during cruise events? I would suspect the EGR ports may be clogged, or the EGR valve is not functioning.
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 09:20 PM
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My EGR ports were clogged so I cleaned them and when I tested it out on the highway the check engine light started blinking again and stayed on. What should I look into next?

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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 01:23 PM
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My CEL is still on and keeps blinking when I go over 60mph. Sometimes it will take a minute or two before it starts blinking and will stop as soon as I let of the gas a lil bit then will start bling again shortly after. I don't feel a difference in how it drives but the light is really getting annoying. Any edvice on what to look into next? I unclogged my EGR ports changed my fuel filter, distributor cap and rotor, spark plugs and wires. I'm thinking about getting a compression test done next or should I look into something else before getting the test done.
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Old Apr 3, 2013 | 11:01 AM
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I haven't done the compression test yet but yesterday morning I reset my check engine light and was driving around most of the day but didn't go over 45mph and my light has yet to turn back on. I'm going to be driving it around again today to see if it comes back on and at night ill hit 60 and see if it starts flashing again. If it does anyone have any edvice on what to look into?
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Old Apr 3, 2013 | 12:22 PM
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Flashing CEL during operation = engine misfire.

Check the same things I mentioned last week.

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Fuel injectors
Fuel injector circuit
Ignition system
Low Compression
Valve clearance
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 06:09 PM
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I did the compression test today and cylinder #1 was 200psi, #2 was 197psi, #3 was 197, and #4 was 190. What can those results mean? I also noticed a pretty big crack on my ignition coil so I'm going to replace it.
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 06:19 PM
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I did the compression test today and cylinder #1 was 200psi, #2 was 197psi, #3 was 197, and #4 was 190. What can those results mean? I also noticed a pretty big crack on my ignition coil so I'm going to replace it.
Your engine's in good shape then. You don't want the numbers to be more than 20psi from eachother. As long as they're consistant then you're good.

That big crack will cause an engine misfire. Replace that and report back.
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 06:43 PM
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Your engine's in good shape then. You don't want the numbers to be more than 20psi from eachother. As long as they're consistant then you're good.

That big crack will cause an engine misfire. Replace that and report back.
Yeah I figured since they weren't too much apart it was good. But I don't have to worry about the psi being over the standard 178psi? And ill replace the coil asap. Hopefully that will fix the misfire issue. Thanks for posting I appreciate it!
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Old Apr 5, 2013 | 02:44 PM
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I changed the coil and the cel came back on when I got on the highway. So I'm going to be doing the valve adjustments. On the haynes manual it says to rotate the pulley clockwise to get valve #1 to TDC then rotate counter clockwise for the rest but on the faqs it says to just rotate it counterclockwise for all of them. Is that ok or should I go by the book.

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Old Apr 7, 2013 | 08:32 AM
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Counter clockwise..... for all rotations of the engine. I find it best to remove the plugs so I'm not fighting the compression.
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Old Apr 7, 2013 | 02:38 PM
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Thanks for the tip. Lol I was thinking there had to be a easier way to turn that damn pulley. Lol I had to get into a weird position to turn it cuz my car was on the ground.

But I got nervous right when it came down to adjusting the valves so I just put everything back together and I'm waiting for my uncle to get a day off and help me. The exhaust valves seemed easy to adjust but the intake ones looked like trouble and I wasn't comfortable with doing it alone.
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Old Apr 7, 2013 | 05:39 PM
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Yeah I figured since they weren't too much apart it was good. But I don't have to worry about the psi being over the standard 178psi? And ill replace the coil asap. Hopefully that will fix the misfire issue. Thanks for posting I appreciate it!
Don't worry too much about the engine putting out 150 or 178 psi across the board. As long as they're consistant of what you have then you have nothing to worry about. Honda says 180psi though.
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 04:20 PM
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Does the radiator fan only turn on if the car starts to overheat or should it turn on once the car gets to normal operating tempatures?
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both fans turns on/off as needed together, at the same time, when the car gets to normal operating temp
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 05:01 PM
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Ok. I've noticed my fans won't turn on when my car gets to normal operating temp but it doesn't overheat either. Both fans run when I turn on my a/c though.
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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GhostAccord
Misfire detected in cylinders 1, 2, 3 & 4.


Did you have a compression test caries out on the new engine? Or checked the valve clearances?

Did you swap any wiring when you went from the original OBD2 97 F22B2 to the 95 OBD1 F22B2?

The usual suspects for those codes are;
Fuel injectors
Fuel injector circuit
Ignition system
Low Compression
Valve clearance
I know it took awhile but I finally adjusted my valve clearance and my car sounds betterrulw but I took it for a drive and the CEL turned on again. What would be the best way to rule out my ignition system for the misfire issue.
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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 07:23 PM
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What's the code again? I can look it up on Identifix.
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