88 crx si - should I do a d16z6 or b18a1 swap?

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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 06:55 PM
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Default 88 crx si - should I do a d16z6 or b18a1 swap?

so im to the point of swapping out my d16a6 from my 88 crx si, my two swap options are a d16z6 (which i have a few mods for) or my b18a1. i have everything to do either swap but im looking for some opinions which would be the better swap?
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 07:03 PM
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Trick question? Why WOULDN'T you get the engine with more displacement?
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 07:05 PM
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Default Re: d or b?

weight and the ls cable tranny isnt as well geared as the si d tranny i have currently, but im just asking opinions
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 07:08 PM
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Get off of the weight issue. Because it's a non-issue. How much more do you actually think a B-series weighs than a D? And get a better geared transmission to mate to the B.
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 07:11 PM
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then i have to find a better transmission shovel out a few hundred for it and convert to hydo, im asking with what i have already what is the better swap
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 07:17 PM
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Hmmm. Seems you're ruling out the B swap because of the transmission. Then you've technically made up your mind. But I guess people are doing B swaps just because they like doing them.

For me? More horsepower and torque than the Z6 is a no brainer since you're asking for opinions. You can get a better transmission later.
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 07:24 PM
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very true
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 07:47 PM
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You could also sell or trade your tranny.
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 08:34 PM
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z6 turbo..
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 12:23 AM
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what there saying. sell your z6
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 07:18 AM
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Default Re: 88 crx si - should I do a d16z6 or b18a1 swap?

well the z6 has chipped p28, aem fuel rail, aem cam gear, y8 polished intake mani, custom header other stuff im forgetting and the ls has no mods and like 50k more miles on it
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 07:51 AM
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Default Re: 88 crx si - should I do a d16z6 or b18a1 swap?

Use the p28 for the ls.
Get some ebay headers for like $60


You will enjoy the LS much more than the z6. And, the LS gives you more rooms for upgrades. LS/Vtech, better tranny, works well with boost, etc.
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 08:01 AM
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Default Re: 88 crx si - should I do a d16z6 or b18a1 swap?

Sounds to me like you've already decided on the D and are trying to sway others into telling you to use the D to justify your decision.
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 09:52 AM
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Default Re: 88 crx si - should I do a d16z6 or b18a1 swap?

That's what I'm saying.
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 10:00 AM
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Default Re: 88 crx si - should I do a d16z6 or b18a1 swap?

so the z6 has a bunch of pointless bling mods? where's the tech? o/p what's your budget? z6 will physically drop in then you have to wire up vtec and a 4 wire o2 sensor.

ls will need custom mounts custom linkage new axles and you have to beat the drivers frame rail to fit the alternator, but the wiring is potentially plug and play (assuming you're using all obd0 integra parts)

next questoin, what are you going to be using it for? drag racing? daily driver? hard parker?
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 10:39 AM
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I ride with a B16a with a p28 turbo t3/t4. It's a fun drive and I'll continue to work with them because it's all I have experience with thus far but whatever you decide to do you should greatly consider an LSD. I am a newb (as fk) and I greatly over powered my vehicle and it pulls so hard to one side I want to cry.
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 12:19 PM
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Default Re: 88 crx si - should I do a d16z6 or b18a1 swap?

The man says he has TWO options, the z6 or LS. All this other conjecture on what he should put in his car is pointless unless he has the budget for it. And to the OP while the decision is ultimately yours, if it 'twas me I would opt for the z6, as you won't need to shell out more cash for mounts and linkage, plus beat the hell out of your framerail for alternator fitment. The torque differential between the z6 and (obd0)LS is only like 15 ft/lbs, and the horsepower difference is even less at 5. So to me its not worth the extra $$$ to make the B fit unless you plan on upgrading the LS to VTEC or swap in the B16 or GSR down the road. However with the right build the SOHC's can give the DOHC's a run for their money. I remember reading somewhere on H-T an ad in marketplace a shop was selling their 500+hp SOHC that they drove over 3 hours to get to the racetrack, ran, then drove it back home. Ultimately it comes down to what YOU want, though. Just wanted to give you a little perspective on it.
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 12:41 PM
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Default Re: 88 crx si - should I do a d16z6 or b18a1 swap?

He said in the opening post that he already has everything to do either swap, so it shouldn't be an issue of budget.
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 02:14 PM
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Default Re: 88 crx si - should I do a d16z6 or b18a1 swap?

if i had a z6 and an ls swap i would sell both and get a colt tri flow cam for the a6 and some pg6b pistons and call it a aday.
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 02:36 PM
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Default Re: 88 crx si - should I do a d16z6 or b18a1 swap?

Originally Posted by 4n_intelligence
The torque differential between the z6 and (obd0)LS is only like 15 ft/lbs, and the horsepower difference is even less at 5. So to me its not worth the extra $$$
Two words. More. Potential.
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 04:34 PM
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Default Re: 88 crx si - should I do a d16z6 or b18a1 swap?

a engines an engine.you can do the same mods to each.
The ls will be crap unless you have a cam and a gsr trans. as well the z6 with no turbo, imo.but i agree with grumblemarc with the potential being greater for the ls but bringing out potential cost money.are you willing to spend that cash tho?
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 06:47 PM
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Default Re: 88 crx si - should I do a d16z6 or b18a1 swap?

im not necessarily swayed to either one and im just telling what all i have, my initial plan was for the z6 which is why i have more for it but then i happened into the ls swap. This car is my dd and only needs to be a little faster than stock not race car. just looking for peoples opinions on which they would chose and as to why.
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Old Feb 24, 2013 | 04:01 PM
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Default Re: 88 crx si - should I do a d16z6 or b18a1 swap?

Originally Posted by grumblemarc
Two words. More. Potential.
I addressed this point saying that the B swap would be better if he planned on going LS/VTEC ,B16, or GSR.
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 03:21 AM
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I know you did. I'm clarifying since you also stated that there was little to no difference between the two. The difference is the potential for larger gains between the two platforms with a minimum of work and expense.

Holding onto a D when you have a B is not too smart. Regardless of what the D already has on it (minor bolt-ons that don't really do anything). If I had a B I would have boosted THAT and put the D on the shelf.
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 10:20 AM
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Default Re: 88 crx si - should I do a d16z6 or b18a1 swap?

I had a Z6, now I have a b20. the b20 is WAYYYYY better. I vote LS
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