I have a 1991 EF civic hatch. I'm wanting to do a swap. I want something unique not been over done like B16 and B18. What do you recommend? I'm wanting a manual transmission too.

 

K24 with k20 head.

Or a v6 from a TL-S...

 

+1!

But, you better have some serious cash for either of those! And some amazing fabrication skills.

There is a reason B series is so popular. All you need is a motor, tranny, axles, mounts, and some wiring. Everything basically bolts in, with some very minor clearance needing to be done. And full swaps can be found cheeaaaapppp. Got my Sir I B16A for $1K, WITH a full EF parts car.

 

boosted & water meth injected k24?

 

Well how about a B17? Honda super bike motor?

Seriously though, just about every swap has been done.

Whats your budget?

Can you fabricate and figure out new swaps on your own? If not go with whats tried and true.

 

Or two....

 

I'm spending atleast 500 to 600 a month to put in it. I am wanting to find a wrecked but salvageable honda fit or honda crv or honda accord acura rsx, honda prelude, with obd2 swap. My car is a rolling shell right now. The v6 in hondas are reversed lateral. I can weld and have a fabrication shop but lookin for a 4cylinder swap. B16/B18 way overrated.

 

SR20 and make it RWD

 

you could look into the AWD b series swaps or ive been looking into the inline 5 Honda motors I don't think ive ever seen in a civic, 2.0 or 2.2l inline 5


one swap ive only seen one person do is a 2.8L v8 swap into a crx, was a NASTY little car.


title to the vid is bogus. its not the original video,


this one is a B Series swap not many people have seen.




OR if your feeling wealthy,

 

I havent seen much inline 5's in a honda civic either and the awd swaps are rare. I was wanting to do awd with lift kit. but i want the tuner aspect so the awd lowered sounds fast too. I was thinking of the awd setup is it all fab work? and will a 1st gen acura front end fit on my civic as well?

 

being in a EF a D-series awd isn't too awful because a lot of parts from a wagovan will bolt up but if you go B series its nowhere near as easy as you have to get parts off a CRV. also when it comes to drag racing, or red light to red light a FWD civic will win unless a AWD civic has ALOT more power. but autocross or somthing like that im sure a AWD would be great. the 4Cyl don't have the torque to spin all four tires and if it cant spin they tend to bog down in the AWD.

I don't think ive ever seen the Inline 5 in a civic but I do know its a Honda motor from doing research about a de-stroke (that don't seem to be possible) of a D series.

also that small V8 is a RWD but it would cost you about 50 grand because of the type of motor lol.

 

My 91 CRX in my profile pic. I dropped a H22 in it and a 6spd transmission with lsd. I know prelude swap is fairly easy. I just wonder bout the B20 is it vtec? will it bolt to a LS transmission? what did the inline 5 come in? i was wonder a rsx swap?

 

RSX swap only if its a type s, the k20a3 in the base model is trash, and my fav k series is the k24a2 in a TSX (identical to a Type-S but 2.4) and K-swaps tend to be a pain and very expensive. k24a2 IMHO is the best USDM K-series. but by all means get a jdm k20a (5grand)


B20 is not a vtec motor but you can put a B16 or GSR B18 head on the B20 block, (ive heard both good and bad) fastest EF I've ever seen was a non-vtec b20 turbo.

B20 will bolt to any other B-series tranny (B16 LS or GSR) stock B20 with a B16 trans is a fun car but bad MPG due to a short 5th gear.

also if you do ever have a K-swap (and im sure a lot will not agree with me lol) the 5spd in the base model rsx is ALOT more durable then the 6spd type-s but if your not giving it hell or drag racing either would do great



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_G_engine

inline 5 is a G series, don't know if it would be a good motor in all honesty ive never seen them or anything, just thought a I5 would be interesting. and technically its a slant 5, sorry about that but whats the difference really? lol crooked motor mounts?

 

well what about a B18 with a B20 transmission? i know sounds odd. I thought about a honda fit swap as well

 

they would (awd is b20 tranny) unless its a D or K series,

Honda fits are basically a new D16, not sure what the advantages to that would be except having a shop go through and tune out all the "new" junk on the ecu so it would run in a older car. (SOHC 1.3-1.6l im pretty sure)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_L_engine

Honda hit (Honda jazz) are L series sohc 8 valve and 16 valve, Vtec (fuel efficient not performance vtec) also had diesel engines, some uitilize the 8 spark plug 4cyl crap like the mustang in my signature does)


this is the highest output Honda hit motor i found, and a stock D16Z6 has this kind of power. also don't think it was available in US
L15A7 (i-VTEC)
SOHC 16 valve i-VTEC
Displacement: 1,496 cc
Bore x Stroke: 73.0 mm × 89.4 mm (2.87 × 3.52 in)
Compression: 10.4 : 1
Horsepower: 88 kW (120 PS; 118 hp) / 6,600 rpm
Torque: 145 N·m (107 lb·ft) / 4,800 rpm (GE8 Fit)
Carbon Dioxide (g/km) 148 , Honda City

Honda Fit (Japan series GE8 / 9)
Honda Jazz (Brazil,Thailand GE8 / 9)
Honda Freed (Japan series GB3 / 4)
Honda City (Brazil,Thailand)

D16Z6

VTEC
Found in 1992–1995 Honda Civic Si
1992–1995 Honda Civic EX, EX-V
1992–1995 Honda Civic ESi (European Market)
1993–1995 Honda Del Sol Si (US)
1993–1995 Honda Del Sol ESi (European) Bore and Stroke: see D16 Series Engines
Displacement: see D16 Series Engines
Rod Length: 137 mm
Rod Ratio: 1.52~
Compression: 9.2:1
Power: 125 bhp (92 kW, 125 PS) at 6,600 rpm
Torque: 106 lb·ft (14.7 kg/m, 144 Nm) at 5,200 rpm
Volumetric Efficiency: 87.68%
Redline: 7,200 rpm
Fuel cut: 7,411 rpm
VTEC switchover: 4,800 rpm
Fuel control: OBD-1 PGM-FI
Head code: P08
ECU code: P28

 

ill tell you, its something ive been interested in as ive never seen it, and it would NOT be a fast car. ive thought about taking either a dpfi D15 or maybe even a D12 and putting the dpfi intake on it, with a 8 valve head boosted on a fuel efficient tune..

i seriously wouldn't be surpised to see a setup like this obtain 90 or 100mpg (as ive already seen stock VX civic's hit 70's) but it would have to be in a very light weight car.

 

wiki paster lol but yeah my d15 already gets 72 on hwy with the D15 and D16 transmission with DPFI. 320 miles on 5gals and can go 145mph pushing it in 4th gear. my 5th gear throws my ratio off. I built the sl3 transmission myself type 2 denso clutch as well. Its got integra gears and civic eg and ef gears in it. as well as a 70/30lsd lol. I'm wanting fuel effiency and power but quick acceleration. Should i try finding a ivtec L15? I do got three junk s10s and a diesel mercedes behind my shop haha midengine 2.2l?

 

the inline 5s are rare. mainly in acura vigors and acura tl series. you lose power with extra cylinder not worth trying. I'm tryin to go for all motor as well. turbo setups more expensive

 

understandable... how the F**K you push 145 on a d series? my Si can barely redline 4th gear (way under 145) think ive maxxed it out at 115 (110 with a 4spd)

could always do a s2k swap


and i love Wiki,,, don't judge me >.<

 

high compression gsr with a hybrid tranny would be great mpg and accel i bet, (not 60mpg but good) or a B16 high compression hybrid.

 

Lmao I am good like that lol. My transmission i built has different gears from a b18 and a d16 in it and a lsd locker. I can push 96mph in third and then 4th tops out at 145. 5th gear so low a ratio i lose all power lol. I beat a 2003 hemi dodge ram before and a 1992 acura integra b18. I thought bout a s2000 fwd system if its possible?

 

s2k fwd is possible, i think you use a accord tranny but i might be mistaken, RWD FTW.

i loved my 4spd if my motor just had some more torque.... hit 72 in second, wanted to boost that tranny

 

is your motor dpfi or mpfi? I like dpfi the best for fuel mileage. and where are you wanting the torque displacement top or bottom end? and yes rwd sucks. Im all for fwd. and yeah it wouldnt be worth rebuilding my D15 would it? Ive worked on cars 12yrs and my pistons are blue and warped rings dont seat. what bout a quad steer setup of a 90 model prelude?

 

quad steer is fancy crap lol... 91Si D16a6 mpfi with a Y8 head (vtec not working, still obd0)its always held its own light to light, even pulled a few D16Z6's (all stock ofc) but with this car now im about to just rebuild it with some 12.7:1 compression pistons and call it done.

im workin on a drag crx, probably gona do B20 or B20Vtec, either boosted. would like to set it up for 1/4 but theres no tracks around but 1/8 and my buddy already has a nasty 1/8 crx

 

Lol sounds cool. My CRX was beating mustangs and camaros with a h22a1 with a accord 6spd tranny. I totaled it on black ice. regretted that one. So a EF is lighter than a CRX? Honda salvage cars are hard to find period. Kinda wanting a easier option instead of a puzzle lol