i have a b16 with Y1 LSD in my hatch. In the morning, when my drivetrain is cold, i have a major clacking sound when i am turning the wheel. It is also extremely hard to turn my steering wheel. After I drive for about twenty minutes, the clacking subsides.

I am using BRAND NEW 90-93 integra axles. I believe that the intermediate shaft i am using is from a 92 integra. Hasport's site says to use a 90-93 intermediate shaft with 90-93 teg axles for a Y1 tranny, but they say this will only work 95% of the time.

Am i the other 5%? Has anyone ever had similar problems?

 

sounds like your bearings are going out, Also check your cv joints

 

cv joints are perfect, brand new. What are the symptoms of bad bearings? Easier to replace the whole knuckle?

 

Did you take the dust caps and stuff before putting in the axle?

 

yes, dust caps were removed

 

hmmm, thats really odd because I have the same set up...91 axles and 91 intermediate shaft and no problems...I wonder if you'r cv joint is the one klucking, but I know they only kluck when turning...bearings maybe? But if they're bad, they will make noise no matter what temperature and probably be worse if they're hot...

 

have u evre stopped to wonder if the LSD is an aftermarket clutch type?

 

red civic standard says:

the lsd is stock

 

I had a similiar problem and used a combination of axles 89 teg and 90-93 teg also tried raxles custom axles and the 90-93 intermediate along with the jdm sir intermediate nothing would work. still had a problem, mine was fine on straight aways but would jerk and pop on turns. I bought the swap straight from another crx and it was fine in there but the axles were the jdm ones and the shop that did my swap used them in someone elses car!!!!! I went through thinking it was the axles to the shocks, springs(oem) but bad shape. even my mount kit(hcp) finally I tried nother tranny no lsd (s1) and the problem is gone. I had the y1 and lsd checked out they were fine, I said screw it and sold it and stuck with the s1 no lsd and longer 1-2 dunno if it was my car (has a salvaged title) the springs , shocks are pretty bad off or that I really needed the jdm axles for some reason. also taking off the dust seal is dumb if u have to do that to make it fit right just buy custom ones. your cv's will go to hell if you drive alot taking dirt/water.. I know it sounds dumb but try and find some jdm axles, make sure your enge\ine is in straight an your intermediate is not damaged also you have some good tranny fluid and lsd oil etc. if your crx is dropped that can effect it too. hope you figure it out good luck!!!

 

i have GC and Koni yellows but my ride height isn't much lower than stock. i use HONDA manual transmission fluid. Using HCP mounts. Motor is in straight.


RaVen...will the Y1 intermediate shaft and JDM SiR axles setup work? I still have my y1 intermediate shaft.

 

yes, I am using the SiR shaft and axles. You have to take the dust seals off of the SiR axles too, so you have that issue either way. I am getting a clunking sound when I'm driving around too, and I'm pretty sure its not the cv.

How can I investigate the bearings? Any particular "signs" to look for? I get clacking when I turn and when I hit bumps, you can hear something up front pop a little. We just rebuilt that axle, so I'm pretty confident it's fine.

 

I am really starting to believe that for some reason the lsd that comes with the y1 is not catching the axle and the intermediate on the inside,(there should be a catch ring or something that catches both on each side) I rode on my crx with out the hood on(holding on to my strut bar )while my friend drove and did donuts in a cudosac and could here the pop as we turned but could never really see much(but I think it was to easy to get the axle and intermediate out(call me crazy) other than that I don't know for sure, all I know is the swap I got before it was in my crx was in anoither and used the sir intermediate and axles and was fine. I tried every combo using 90-93 teg axles, 88-89 teg axles, sir intermediate, 90-93 intermediate and raxle custom axles including the 90-93 with 88-89 parts etc never did work I wish I had the jdm axles to know for sure but it was a problem I dealt with for 9 months before switching the tranny, considered taking the 1 gear of the y1 and replaceing that in the s1 (I have the s1 xsi from a jdm teg) that is the only difference I think and then getting a after market lsd(quiffe, phantom grip etc..) I will look back on all my notes and let you know. did we all use hcp mounts and have this problem?

 

HASport mounts here, SiR intermediate shaft and SiR axles, LSD equipped y1

 

HCP mount, 90-93 teg intermediate shaft and 90-93 teg axles.

When my car is driving straight, there is no clacking. Only when i turn the wheel 20 degrees or more. Once the drivetrain is warm the problem is lesser.

 

here is the order I tried things in, from october 2001- july 2002
1st
hcp mounts, y1 w/lsd , sir intermediate , 90-93 teg axles

2nd
hcp mounts, y1 w/lsd , sir intermediate , 86-89 teg axles

3rd
hcp mounts, y1 w/lsd , sir intermediate , 86-89 Integra axles with the 90-93 Integra inner CV joints

4th
hcp mounts, y1 w/lsd , 90-93 intermediate , 86-89 Integra axles with the 90-93 Integra inner CV joints

5th
hcp mounts, y1 w/lsd , 90-93 intermediate , 90-93 teg axles

6th
hcp mounts, y1 w/lsd , 90-93 intermediate , 86-89 teg axles

7th
hcp mounts, y1 w/lsd , 90-93 intermediate , raxles custom axles for 88-91 crx b16a1 with y1 tranny

8th
hcp mounts, y1 w/lsd , sir intermediate , raxles custom axles for 88-91 crx b16a1 with y1 tranny

9th
hcp mounts, s1 tranny(jdm integra xsi) , 90-93 intermediate , 90-93 teg axles

the last one finally worked but as you can see I had to switch trannies.
I bought the s1 for $350 and sold the y1 for $750, of course I miss the shorter 1-2 gear and the lsd , but never had the lsd on turns any ways (where it counts) I spent 9 months trying to fix the popping not just a pop like cv's but a jerk (feel the whole car move on it) was weird. I talked to the hcp guys they said if I was lowered it would affect it, if the car was not straight(been wrecked) the engine not straight on install and after I explained it all to him he said it could be the tranny, I dismissed that idea for months, but as you see it worked for me, the y1 had no problems in the guys car I sold it too which is even weirder he had a 95 civic hb si..,
The shop I went to for the install(only went somewhere because I had surgery and was out of work on disability) had no idea what to do and tried alot like I did of course they used my sir axles on someone elses car without telling me until 2 weeks after that car was gone and when I picked up mine. they of course thought it was no big deal because the got me newly remade 90-93 teg axles. Long story short my daily driven crx was hell for me for 9 months and is finally good well accept that I am now changing the distributor. Easy solution get a s1 jdm or us tranny or even a j1 or just brave the long road to discovery, you can bring it to a tranny specialist have them see if the retainer clip is holding or match the axle exactly etc.. I gave up on the y1 but can turn nicely now, didn't think it would do anything whebn I switched the tranny but turned out to be what I needed maybe not the solution but a solution. No more pops, jerks, anything like normal now. I am of course still curious to know what the deal was if you ever figure it out(have patience, money etc) let me know. Also we checked the entire suspension and bearing no problems there, just had old oem springs and shocks(no affect) they are still on there now. Good Luck and cheers

http://Hasport.com/News/Articles/Hasport%20Axles.htm


[Modified by RaVeN, 10:44 PM 10/22/2002]

 

hey guys, i think i am having the same problem. i just repalced my pasenger side axle in hopes it would get rid of the clunking noise over there, and the axle that came out WAS worn, but the clunking is stil there: / my friend has a J1 that i will buy if i have to, but im going to get a new bearing put in the intermediate, and a new drivers side axle before i jump to conclusions. at least then i can rule out that stuff on the new trans..

P.S.
does it seem to be coming fomr the LSD itself with you guys? i swear the sound is right from that general area.. maybe the LSD is actually broken???

Y1 w/LSD hasport mounts here......

 

LOL riding on top of your car is crazy! i woulda loved to see that

 

TTT i am about to go out and buy another 90-93 integra axle for the drivers side. after that both the passenger and drivers axle will be new....il tell u if it solves my problems

 

back from teh dead. ive driven about 1500 on new alxes and i hear them starting to make the same sound as before. im thinking of just buying a new trans and dropping it in, cause i cannot have a car thats not reliable.

 

Here's a recent thread on the same subject..

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=322198

I've got the same problem..

I've got HASport mounts, Y1 tranny w/ LSD, and teg axles. I've been using Honda MTF. But read this post and there are some interesting ideas. I think I'm gonna try the LSD additive, and/or the thicker 80w-90 gear oil.

I'll let you guys konw how it turns out, dunno when I'll be able to actually do it though..

 

i called hasport yesterday and they told me the same thing: LSD additive....they told me to get it from the GM dealer

 

i wanted to keep this post alive with the problems ive been having in hopes that it would help some others troublshoot any probs they might have.

ive been having intermittent noise which can be quite loud at time from the front of the car. never when i turn tho. only at light throttle. today i got under the car and wiggled the inner CV joint and it was moving around from the trans side. i think that my diff bearings might be abd, or that the splines on the axle dont mesh well with the diff and there is some play in there. im ging to call steve @HMO and see what he thinks about this.

 

keep us updated

 

i pulled the int. shaft out, and wiggled the other shaft. there is alot of play and its all from the splines being super lose in the diff. im guessing this is where my phantomnoise is coming from, so im gonna just turn the radio up louder until something breaks