91 Civic 4 door. NO instrument lights

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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 11:16 PM
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I bought a 91 civic that had hit a pole. put a new radiator and bumper on it. Runs well, all the gauges work, the exterior lights work. but no instrument lights. I unplugged the guage harness and found that the red/blk wire is hot when I turn on the lights but no lights energize. also the dimmer has no power to it. the clock dims when i turn on lights but still no lights to the dash. radio light wire is hot (red/blk) wire but no gauge lights? what am I missing?

I also could use the schematic for the dimmer on the 91. I can find every other year but not a 91. the three wire colors are red/grey red/white red/blue(pink?) but why does the red/blk wire not come through that circuit?

What am I missing?
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 10:46 PM
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I have looked for a schematic on this site and the one that is missing as far as I can tell is the 91 ef. not the 90 but the 91. can someone help me with the dimmer switch?
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 05:47 AM
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If you unplug the dimmer switch and then short the red wire terminal to the black wire terminal in the connector, do the cluster lights now work?
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 09:29 AM
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Sweet. I will give that a try. thank you moderator RonJ@HT
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 04:13 PM
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I did find that the lights do come on when I jumper the red and black wires together at the control unit. when I turn the lights on I find the red/blk wire hot at the radio and the clock dims. also when I unplugged the dash I found that the red/blk wire was hot at the plug and the red also. the chart above says the red/blk wire should be hot at the control unit but it is not. options are a bad switch or fuse, both of which are unlikely since the lights come on elsewhere and at the radio.
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 04:03 PM
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Not sure how to resolve the issues with the open wire red/blk from the control unit? Can I just do away with the dimmer altogether?
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 04:08 PM
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Run a new Red/Blk wire from the dash fuse box to the dimmer switch. This way, the dimmer switch will work.
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 09:52 PM
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thank you much. that seems like a no brainer but sometimes I cant see the forest through the trees.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 09:53 PM
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well, it worked. there must be an open wire somewhere in the red/blk because when I ran it from the fuse panel to the dimmer control unit the dash lights came on!!! yeah! I was one happy camper. BTW how long will I be a Trial user.
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by rogertbp
well, it worked...I was one happy camper.


BTW how long will I be a Trial user.
Look under your username.
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Old Feb 17, 2013 | 10:37 PM
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Thanks so MUCH for the help. Roger
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