trying to turn my na commuter to a boosted weekend warrior.

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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 09:09 AM
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Default trying to turn my na commuter to a boosted weekend warrior.

heres a run down of whats currently happened over the last 4-5 years ive had er..

suspension/ brakes - tokiko white shocks all around, coilovers, sway bars front and rear, strut bars front and rear, skunk lcas in the rear, asr sub brace, sphericle endlinks on the sway bars, adjustable toe in rear, adjustable camber in front and rear. running gsr trailing arms with rear discs, gsr front knuckles and brakes, prop valve 40/40 i think, upgraded the master cylinder, every bushing thats rubber is currently being switched out with e.s. bushings since all bushings look torn.

appearance - keepin it lookin clean and stock is the goal - no body kits just some clean lips and jdm lights. the car will maintain full interior - im running the dash without airbag and the jdm steering wheel without airbag as well. car has been converted to power windows, locks, and mirrors for ease of alarm install and cleanness ( to me)

motor / tranny - b18c refd and legit runnin an ls tranny but it was free so... i take free stuff... motor is stock internals and im runnin a skunk2 intake mani and throttle body, aem cai, plm headers, buddyclub spec 2 exhaust system, and a hondata s300. aem hi volume rail and fpr..4 puck clutch from c.m. and a lightened flywheel as well..

so...... i have done quite a bit of homework and came to the following conclusions..you can build a boosted motor by simply changing the pistons, upgrading the valvetrain and fuel supply and go carefully (maintaining low boost pressure) and have a good tune and things will last..im looking for around 4 - 500 hp and still plan on driving it on the streets. if it could run on pump gas great.. if not o well.. i want a turbo mani that is tube not cast and setup for twin scroll, i need larger fuel injectors and a fuel pump - since mine are oem.. and i also have realized most "kits" are filled with bits of bling and chrome to look cool and make you feel good about the buy.. when in all actuality the kits have low quality parts that work but could be better.. i have looked at several companies but im having a hard time deciding. im not looking to have a full out track car - just spirited drivin with occasionally a weekend track event. i dont have a budget - imho when you get the sickness of car building its never ending financially. BUT i do things slowly and correctly and im not rich or live rent free.. i like replacing hardware and gaskets with oem or better when i change things.. SO - with all that rambling - what do you honda heads out there think.. not looking for "the best" money can buy.. but quality over quantity any day.. thanks for knowledge in advance have a good weekend.. almost forgot ben lookin at fullrace and some similar styled stuff...

turbo? manifold? fuel injector size? spark? crank angle sensor?
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 09:51 AM
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Default Re: trying to turn my na commuter to a boosted weekend warrior.

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Full race is a great company to buy from. I personally got my turbo kit from synapse turbo from New York. 4-500 is more than a spirited ride. I think most people non turbo peeps don't realize 300-350 is more enjoyable and you don't need to have 400+ to have a "fast honda".

One thing you need to know is that we are not going to tell you what to get as far as parts if your not going to provide what you've been looking at. Also 4-500 is a big range and narrow down what your comfortable with so we can help on deciding what turbo to look at.
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 10:22 AM
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Default Re: trying to turn my na commuter to a boosted weekend warrior.

Anything above 300-350 is pointless for a car that is strictly street duty on street tires.

You'll have a horrid, laggy powerband and traction issues out the ***... street tires don't have a soft enough compound to put the power down.

Now if you have sticky tires like r888s, nt555s, nt01s, bf Goodrich, Michelin pilot sport cups, etc

Then you could put 350-400 to the ground with little issue, especially if using boost by gear. I would use the smallest turbo possible to make 300-350.. something like a 2871 or 3071. You'd have a huge, fat, torque filled power band that would be a blast to drive on surface streets.

I'm doing a similar 300-400hp ls vtec using the smallest turbo possible and a bunch of things to increase efficiency and post production. I should have full torque (300ftlb +) by 3500-4000.

That will be a quick, fun car
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 10:25 AM
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Default Re: trying to turn my na commuter to a boosted weekend warrior.

your goals are extreme for a street car, dial it down a notch.

Start with a good turbo kit professionally tuned on the stock motor to about 300whp, when that becomes boring to you (300 whp is no slouch, its a beast) then you can drop another $5k to build the motor and shoot for retarded high hp numbers that wont even be usable on the streets.

And fyi, twin scroll and divided housing are entirely different things, and twin scroll is a bit excessive and expensive for a street car.
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 11:04 AM
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Default Re: trying to turn my na commuter to a boosted weekend warrior.

i forgot to mention im looking into sleeving through dart. understood on the dialing it down.. 400 hp it is. as far as tires im runnin bfgoodrich g forces currently and have some 13x8 track rims with 23" mh slicks. my bad on the twin scroll i believe i intended to say divided housing. (allows for smoother build of boost i believe - correct me if im wrong. ) as far as turbos ive ben looking at a friends new borgwarner t04 and also some t3/t4 setups as they seam to be commonly tuned on..thanks for the feedback to all - please bump if viewed..
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 11:48 AM
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Default Re: trying to turn my na commuter to a boosted weekend warrior.

I would avoid the Divided housing, and stay with the smaller volutes for the power goals that you're trying to achieve. there's no advantage to them at this level or use. There are a LOT of options in both the GARRETT & BORG-WARNER companies. Some from a "list" from the websites, and some variations that are not as available.

As for the "kits" available. there are always options that can make it more "functional" and less "showy". But you must remember that the quality kits that are out there are great because they include the smaller items that one forgets when they're trying to put this together. This is to ensure a correct design fitment and at the same time save you some serious trips to the hardware store, plumbing supply, and 20 different sites to get these items. (And that's if you know exactly what you need and what size). So don't discount the correct companies, like Synapse Turbo, Spoolin' Performance, and Go-Autoworks. They are around for a very good reason.

What other setups have you seen outside of "friends" that you're looking into? what are some of the setups that you've seen here that may have peaked your interest?
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 02:00 PM
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Default Re: trying to turn my na commuter to a boosted weekend warrior.

And you don't need sleeves at these power levels.... its a waste of money
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 04:06 PM
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Default Re: trying to turn my na commuter to a boosted weekend warrior.

Originally Posted by wantboost
And you don't need sleeves at these power levels.... its a waste of money
I wouldn't say that. Sleeving is always good. Especially on endurance racing. I was sleeved at 300whp for the insurance factor of hard running the car
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 04:15 PM
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Default Re: trying to turn my na commuter to a boosted weekend warrior.

Good, but on a daily driver that will rarely see full output/pressure levels, I would call it unneeded.
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 06:04 PM
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Default Re: trying to turn my na commuter to a boosted weekend warrior.

the t3/t4 combos have sparked interest. my buddys runnin an evo 8 turbo on his b16 and its impressive to me..i have google searched in the little free time i have for turbo kits and usually knock off companies and ebay like quality pops up, thanks for the tip on autowerks i will look into them.. i picked a complete b18b block today all there except oil pan for 75 bucks.. i stripped it down , degreased it, and inspected it, looks legit.. pistons appear to be in good shape along with cylinder walls. as far as sleevin is concerned im doin it as a back up form of protection.. its overkill sure but i dont care and like overkill..
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 06:29 PM
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Default Re: trying to turn my na commuter to a boosted weekend warrior.

A few fabricators make b series to evo twin scroll manifolds.

I have an evo 8 16g that has a 34mm FIA inlet restrictor that I plan on testing, with and without to see how it influences torque production, I'll also be building an evo 9 (larger compressor housing for a tad more flow and less surge) based 20g with a ported shroud compressor housing. Should provide some interesting data, and have almost too fast response and stupid amounts of torque.
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