short shifter help
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dual and single bend short shifters are practically the same.. except dual bend are closer to you.. if you dont really need it, dont even get it.. spend you money somewhere else on the car..
The K-tuned shifters recieved a very positive response so they started making them for cars that weren't k-swapped. It's a very nice piece, but I still like my fastline extended shifter better.
whats so great about the fastline shifter if its a 100% like stock they say
For me, because I'm 6'2, I have the seat all the way back. I felt like I always had to reach for the stock shifter. I did not want a short shifter because they just **** up the transmission. The fastline was my solution. I don't feel like I'm reaching for any gear, and the movement from steering wheel to shifter is much less than with the stock piece. It's really a road racing thing. The less time your 2nd hand is off the steering wheel to shift, the better. You won't find any drag racers using one.
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Short throw shifters do not mess up transmissions. I've had some no-name Autozone short throw in my GS-R since 2001, putting over 230K miles on it. Transmission has all original internals with 324K miles and has zero problems shifting. The shifter height inside is the same as stock, and I run the OEM **** on it. Feels much more positive and direct than the original shifter did.
I also ran polyurethane shift bushings for a few years, but those turned into junk. I replaced with new OEM rubber and it was a 100% improvement. If your bushings are worn I highly recommend new OEM rubber, or HardRace rubber if you can get them. They will definitely last longer than polyurethane.
*edit* also double bend for 3rd gen Integras, because that's the shape of the stock shifter. Single bend makes the shifter lean backwards and looks weird. 2nd gen Integras - single bend because that's what came stock.
I also ran polyurethane shift bushings for a few years, but those turned into junk. I replaced with new OEM rubber and it was a 100% improvement. If your bushings are worn I highly recommend new OEM rubber, or HardRace rubber if you can get them. They will definitely last longer than polyurethane.
*edit* also double bend for 3rd gen Integras, because that's the shape of the stock shifter. Single bend makes the shifter lean backwards and looks weird. 2nd gen Integras - single bend because that's what came stock.
Short throw shifters do not mess up transmissions. I've had some no-name Autozone short throw in my GS-R since 2001, putting over 230K miles on it. Transmission has all original internals with 324K miles and has zero problems shifting. The shifter height inside is the same as stock, and I run the OEM **** on it. Feels much more positive and direct than the original shifter did.
I also ran polyurethane shift bushings for a few years, but those turned into junk. I replaced with new OEM rubber and it was a 100% improvement. If your bushings are worn I highly recommend new OEM rubber, or HardRace rubber if you can get them. They will definitely last longer than polyurethane.
*edit* also double bend for 3rd gen Integras, because that's the shape of the stock shifter. Single bend makes the shifter lean backwards and looks weird. 2nd gen Integras - single bend because that's what came stock.
I also ran polyurethane shift bushings for a few years, but those turned into junk. I replaced with new OEM rubber and it was a 100% improvement. If your bushings are worn I highly recommend new OEM rubber, or HardRace rubber if you can get them. They will definitely last longer than polyurethane.
*edit* also double bend for 3rd gen Integras, because that's the shape of the stock shifter. Single bend makes the shifter lean backwards and looks weird. 2nd gen Integras - single bend because that's what came stock.
So, a short shifter is meant to decrease the shift throw with out the end user moving the shift lever any faster. When used as they are intended to be, there are no problems. The issue is the mindset of about 90% of people that are installing short throw shifters. For some reason most people think that they can shift super fast after they install a short throw shifter, and that that is the purpose of having a short throw shifter, when in reality your shifting hand should not be moving any faster than it was with the oem shifter. Most people are not coordinated enough to get the clutch in fast enough and they end up jamming into the next gear with the clutch half in because their leg can't catch up to their hand. That's when synchros start to go and stuff starts bending. Just my observations. If you disagree, I respect your opinion none the less.
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From: Nowhere and Everywhere
You proved my point exactly. Poor technique screws up synchros, not the short throw shifter itself.
My car runs an 8 lb flywheel so the short throw is really kind if necessary to be able to shift smoothly and not have engine RPM drop too low between shifts, while still being able to move my hand on the shift **** about the same speed.
My car runs an 8 lb flywheel so the short throw is really kind if necessary to be able to shift smoothly and not have engine RPM drop too low between shifts, while still being able to move my hand on the shift **** about the same speed.
You proved my point exactly. Poor technique screws up synchros, not the short throw shifter itself.
My car runs an 8 lb flywheel so the short throw is really kind if necessary to be able to shift smoothly and not have engine RPM drop too low between shifts, while still being able to move my hand on the shift **** about the same speed.
My car runs an 8 lb flywheel so the short throw is really kind if necessary to be able to shift smoothly and not have engine RPM drop too low between shifts, while still being able to move my hand on the shift **** about the same speed.
I see where you are coming from in regards to your personal situation. I've never been much on light weight flywheels in street cars for that very reason. I like them on the track though. Just gives the car that extra bit of snappyness(probably not a word).
I guess we can agree to disagree on the shifter bit
sorry but i ended up going with the skunk 2 single ben short throw shifter and prothane bushings and the one circle piece of bushing doesnt seem to fit idk if im installing it wrong or what...
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