97 HX chassis, HX ECU, Y5 block, Y8 head, Y8 IM - Many CEL codes & running problems
My original thread is located here.
Car information:
I was wondering how to get it to run properly without the CEL codes.
It's been suggested that I need an OBD2a 96-98 P2P ECU.
Suggestions for fixing the many CEL codes?
Car information:
ECU
P2M for 97 Civic HX/D16Y5 with CVT (auto)
CEL codes
Many - 1,3,10,14,65,70
One or more disconnected vacuum or coolant hoses
Engine
D16Y5 block
97 D16Y8 head for an auto tranny (P2J-7)
99-00 D16Y8 intake manifold for manual transmission (2-wire IACV attached to rear side)
99-00 Megan Racing exhaust manifold
Missing cat?
Transmission
Manual transmission from a 00 Civic EX
P2M for 97 Civic HX/D16Y5 with CVT (auto)
CEL codes
Many - 1,3,10,14,65,70
Code 14 is probably caused by having a 2-wire IACV with an ECU that looks for a 3-wire IACV.
Code 70 is probably caused by having a manual transmission with an ECU that looks for an auto (CVT) transmission.
Code 65 - missing secondary O2 sensor
HosesCode 70 is probably caused by having a manual transmission with an ECU that looks for an auto (CVT) transmission.
Code 65 - missing secondary O2 sensor
One or more disconnected vacuum or coolant hoses
Engine
D16Y5 block
97 D16Y8 head for an auto tranny (P2J-7)
99-00 D16Y8 intake manifold for manual transmission (2-wire IACV attached to rear side)
99-00 Megan Racing exhaust manifold
Missing cat?
Transmission
Manual transmission from a 00 Civic EX
It's been suggested that I need an OBD2a 96-98 P2P ECU.
Suggestions for fixing the many CEL codes?
Last edited by Former User; Jan 27, 2013 at 05:44 PM. Reason: hopefully some helpful edits
As discussed in your other thread, you need the correct P2P ECU for your set up.
It's also worth trying to figure out why so many CEL codes are thrown. Codes 14, 65, and 70 may have an explanation, but the cause of the other codes is still unclear.
It's also worth trying to figure out why so many CEL codes are thrown. Codes 14, 65, and 70 may have an explanation, but the cause of the other codes is still unclear.
You'll still need to address both O2's.
I had a reply going as the other thread got locked.
The four pin plug you listed wire colors for is for the secondary O2. It mounts after the cat. in the bung before the three bolt flange. Whether you get a code is going to depend on whether it's actually a cat or not.
You need to find the plug for the primary O2. Look for a 5 pin plug (if this is still the HX harness) on top of the transmission and under the distributor (general area).
The P2P is going to look for a 4 wire O2. You'll need to convert from 5 to 4 wire.
I had a reply going as the other thread got locked.
The four pin plug you listed wire colors for is for the secondary O2. It mounts after the cat. in the bung before the three bolt flange. Whether you get a code is going to depend on whether it's actually a cat or not.
You need to find the plug for the primary O2. Look for a 5 pin plug (if this is still the HX harness) on top of the transmission and under the distributor (general area).
The P2P is going to look for a 4 wire O2. You'll need to convert from 5 to 4 wire.
The four pin plug you listed wire colors for is for the secondary O2. It mounts after the cat. in the bung before the three bolt flange. Whether you get a code is going to depend on whether it's actually a cat or not.
You need to find the plug for the primary O2. Look for a 5 pin plug (if this is still the HX harness) on top of the transmission and under the distributor (general area).
but i could not find the 5 pin plug
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^Actually, this is for the primary O2 sensor of the D16Y5/CVT. It has a 4-wire primary O2 sensor.
The secondary O2 sensor 4P plug has Wht/Red, Grn/Blk, Blk/Yel, and Blk/Wht wires.
The secondary O2 sensor 4P plug has Wht/Red, Grn/Blk, Blk/Yel, and Blk/Wht wires.
Good catch. I didn't see that when I looked at the diagram.
But...that's based on the ecu he has. Was a chasis vin provided to confirm the original configuration?
Code 1 - It's possible that the primary O2 sensor is bad, though the Wht and Grn/Blk wires should first be checked for an open or short.
Code 65 - But Josh should still be searching for the secondary O2 sensor plug or the cut wires. He'll need those when he gets the P2P ECU.
Code 3 - Josh can also check whether the MAP sensor plug has 5 reference volts at 2 wires from the ECU and also has good ground.
Code 10 - Try cleaning the IAT sensor.
There should also be another loose plug in roughly the same area but a little further toward the firewall. EGR. Haven't seen that pop up.
Kinda thinking out loud but is it possible this is an EX harness. Would explain those two missing plugs. Secondary O2 would be part of the floor harness explaining the missing plugs.
OP, did you buy the car like this?
Kinda thinking out loud but is it possible this is an EX harness. Would explain those two missing plugs. Secondary O2 would be part of the floor harness explaining the missing plugs.
OP, did you buy the car like this?
There should also be another loose plug in roughly the same area but a little further toward the firewall. EGR. Haven't seen that pop up.
Kinda thinking out loud but is it possible this is an EX harness. Would explain those two missing plugs. Secondary O2 would be part of the floor harness explaining the missing plugs.
Kinda thinking out loud but is it possible this is an EX harness. Would explain those two missing plugs. Secondary O2 would be part of the floor harness explaining the missing plugs.
I haven't yet seen the EGR solenoid valve (2P connector).
If I remember correct what was called the EGR in the previous post was actually the purge solenoid.
OP, did you buy the car like this?
Clear pictures of wire colors in sensor connectors would really speed things along.
#7 is just hose clamps in the first diagram, right?
Your picture shows the coolant valve for the heater. As its hose is disconnected, the heater can't work.
Your picture shows the coolant valve for the heater. As its hose is disconnected, the heater can't work.



