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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 12:57 PM
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I've got a cel but it only comes on when the car is running. not when it's in the acc/2 postion on the ignition. was told that you can read it even when the car is running. so i tried, i put the paper clip in and everything(wiggled it around a bit) but nothing just a solid cel. im having other problems with the car so i really need to find out what this cel is and narrow down the issue. anyone else had this happen or know what it could be ?
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 01:29 PM
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A solid CEL, [no flashing] is an indication the ECU/ECM is bad. 94
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 01:37 PM
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yes solid CEL no flashing but only when the car's on. so a bad ecu(ecm is just another term for ecu right) ? thanks
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 01:44 PM
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A solid CEL also means no code is stored, doesn't it?
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 01:59 PM
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@GagnarTheUnruly so try to re-set the ECU ?
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 02:16 PM
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I'd give it a shot. If it still acts up maybe you'll need a new one.
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 03:41 PM
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A solid CEL also means no code is stored, doesn't it?
Not when engine is running, but a reset may work. 94
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 05:24 PM
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You need to find out why you cant retreive the codes while ignition switch is at 2nd position.

Have you tried a different ecu yet?
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 05:31 PM
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going to re-set it tomorrow and go from there. have to go out and pick up a new chipped ecu if it turns out to be the ecu/ecm. don't know any one with an 0bd1 ecu that would work.
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 05:38 PM
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going to re-set it tomorrow and go from there. have to go out and pick up a new chipped ecu if it turns out to be the ecu/ecm. don't know any one with an 0bd1 ecu that would work.
Dont just get a random chipped ECU, You need a tune that suits your mods and setup chipped to an ECU.
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 05:49 PM
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i have an extra chip for my setup (I/H/E/IM/TB/SRI). just need to find the ecu.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 06:12 PM
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http://www.team-integra.net/forum/bl...light-cel.html
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 03:58 AM
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^ i cant view the the thred
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 04:04 AM
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could be an issue with the KAM circuit.
is there anything else that does not work? clock memory? radio preset memory?
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 04:13 AM
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No everything else's fully functional car pulls hard to.I still have to re-set the ECU(will be doing so today)
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 04:31 AM
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i would still check for KAM power at the ecm. KAM is constant power to the ecm. key off
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 07:39 AM
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jump the harness under the passenger side dash (should be a blue plug) with a paper clip and count the codes. If it's a solid CEL it's 10 then every light after that is 1. If there is more than one code being thrown it will send a different flash afterwards. Then just use a helms/haynes manual or here to figure out what code it is throwing. Hope this helps
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 08:01 AM
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It's a solid cel only when the car is running. I have a feeling it's the ECU because I unblugged the VTEC solinoid and nothing changed/happened(showed no codes). I also tryd re-setting it again nothing. I've read codes from it before. But just a solid it's really starting to bug me.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 09:36 AM
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just check your powers and grounds at the ecm. there will be 2 powers, one keyed and one constant (KAM), and should be about 3 grounds. find a pinout and check them.
if those all check out, try another ecm. this way you're at least testing up to the ecm before replacing. it'll only take 5 minutes, including looking up the pin out and costs nothing
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 10:27 AM
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Default Re: Can't read code. Cel only when car is running 94 gsr

By ECM do you mean ECU ? But these wires are they the harness wires ? Sorry I'm just not familiar with that term.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 01:06 PM
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*Update i can retrive codes i made a little vid to show what it does may-b pointless but stil. thanks for all the help so far !
i did clear the coeds and it still stays solid.
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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 07:51 AM
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it's throwing codes 7 (TPS) and 22 (VTEC pressure switch). It will continue to show these codes and CEL till they are fixed.
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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 08:33 AM
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I know I unplugged them for the video then I re-set to clear it but it's still solid.can read codes jaut fine **thred no longer relevant**
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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 07:11 PM
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so what was the cel originally on for then?
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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 08:15 PM
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Default Re: Can't read code. Cel only when car is running 94 gsr

I still don't know what a solid cel means but the 2 codes that were blinking in the vid were just to show that I could retrieve them.
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