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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 09:26 PM
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I bought a 1992 Automatic Honda accord lx a Few months ago

It sat from October to the end of December since I didn't have cash to pay for tags and smog. I replaced some parts in December while it sat. I changed the wires for NGK wires,the spark plugs for NGK . I replaced the oil filter for a k&n and replaced the oil. I also replaced the tranny fluid in November which is also leaking. About 2 weeks ago ,a few days after I filled up with new motor oil I was driving to work and I was trying to go over 80 mph since it seem like it was having trouble going over 80 and as soon as I hit 80 my car completely shut off and I tried to start it back up and nothing. I towed it home and did some searching and I read that it could be the ignition control module so I took that and the starter to get checked at autozone. Starter was good but the Ignition control module wasn't . I bought a new duralast one today ,replaced it and hooked everything back up and nothing. it cranks but doesn't want to start. I am going to replace the rotor tomorrow and get my alternator checked also. I'm also gonna get another main relay just in case it's that or just have it as back up.

I have no money to have a mechanic fix my car so I can only search and hope to find the answer. If you guys have any suggestions or have had this problem please give any answers you guys got ,thanks.
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 09:31 PM
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Check dizzy man.. See if you are getting spark.. If so take incoming fuel line off of fuel filter an turn the key see if Fuel comes out, if not fuel pump. If you are getting fuel an spark it will most likely be something dumb like main relay or coolant housing ground. Good luck
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by EfyourK
Check dizzy man.. See if you are getting spark.. If so take incoming fuel line off of fuel filter an turn the key see if Fuel comes out, if not fuel pump. If you are getting fuel an spark it will most likely be something dumb like main relay or coolant housing ground. Good luck
I put a screwdriver into the spark plug wire side that goes to the spark plug while a friend cranked it and no spark. I also took off the dizzy cap to see if the rotor rotated and it rotates. Is there any other way to check it?
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 06:01 AM
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There is more then a dozen ways to check your dizzy... Your best bet is to buy or download the Hanes for that car it will tell u a bunch of ways . Did you check all your spark plugs? If not do so. Could be simply a bad set of wires.
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 01:43 PM
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Check the ignition coil inside the distributor with an ohm meter. It's an easy check to perform.

It could be a main relay as well, you should pull it out, open it and look for broken solder joints on the circuit board. The relay has an ignition and fuel side, and just one of them could go bad.

You can listen for the fuel pump running. It should hum for a couple of seconds when you turn the key to run position. You will hear the main relay click each time when the fuel pump stops running.

I dunno if this helps you, but its probably one of those things.
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 02:09 PM
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This morning I went to start it and it would crank and I could also hear a bogging sound like if I flooded it with gas. A while later I tried it again it would only crank and I could only hear the dizzy spinning.

I checked for spark from the spark plug end of the wires with a spark tester and it would light on.

I checked the fuel pump and I could hear a sound.

I went to the junkyard and got a spare main relay since I couldnt find a backup dizzy.

Ima go get my new ignition module checked as well as the starter.
I'm also gonna get new spark plugs because the new ones I got 3 months ago are dirty black.
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by koco
Check the ignition coil inside the distributor with an ohm meter. It's an easy check to perform.

It could be a main relay as well, you should pull it out, open it and look for broken solder joints on the circuit board. The relay has an ignition and fuel side, and just one of them could go bad.

You can listen for the fuel pump running. It should hum for a couple of seconds when you turn the key to run position. You will hear the main relay click each time when the fuel pump stops running.

I dunno if this helps you, but its probably one of those things.
I have an external coil so is it the same as checking an internal one?i don't know how to solder and didn't want to risk it but I guess ima have to try it.
I appreciate the help,thanks
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 07:40 PM
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I crank it but the rotor from the dizzy only spins. Doesn't even try to crank .
I don't think gas is getting to it. I took of the bolt from the fuel filter and gas came out.
I tested the alternator ,starter and new ignition control module. Replaced the spark plugs for new ones. I hear a noise from the fuel pump .

My spark plug wires are in this orders number 1 (the one on the drivers side) is facing to towards the front of the car on the dizzy, #2 is the top plug on the dizzy,#3 is facing the firewall and #4 is the one towards the bottom. Is this correct ?

I also found a hose that's coming out from the firewall running towards the bottom of the car with nothing attached to it, is that a gas line or does anyone know what it is?
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 05:40 PM
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My car has finally started after cleaning the dizzy cap and the battery terminals. I have to crank it about 2 times till it starts but now I have a different problem.

Last week I cranked it and I forgot I had my ratchet on the crank bolt and it spun a few times down there now when my car runs it spills oil from between the crank pulley and the short block. Could I have damaged something down there or should I just try to re torque it ? If anyone has some input ,please let me know thanks
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 08:38 PM
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When I had the problem with my car not starting, I left my rachet on the crank bolt. I forgot about it and started the car and that's when my rachet hit stuff under the car. Since then ,every time I start it,I leaks oil but I don't know from where. Here is a video of where oil comes out from



Here's a picture of where I think my problem is. I took off the top timing belt cover and found something that I don't think looks normal. There's a part on the left side of the block if you are facing the engine from the drivers side.its towards the front of the engine. If any one knows what part that is and knows if that doesn't look normal please let me know ,thanks

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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 10:18 PM
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If I am looking at it correctly, I believe the front balance shaft seal popped out. This is a common problem with the earlier model f and h series, the later models they installed a retainer which can be purchased and installed on the earlier models as well. For time sake, it looks like with a proper pry bar you may be able to push the seal back flush with the oil pump cover (metal area it seats into). In the long run I would definitely recommend a timing belt and water pump replacement in the fairly near future, especially since the belts are now saturated in oil. Install the new retainer with new seals when you replace the timing belt.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 11:46 PM
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If I am looking at it correctly, I believe the front balance shaft seal popped out. This is a common problem with the earlier model f and h series, the later models they installed a retainer which can be purchased and installed on the earlier models as well. For time sake, it looks like with a proper pry bar you may be able to push the seal back flush with the oil pump cover (metal area it seats into). In the long run I would definitely recommend a timing belt and water pump replacement in the fairly near future, especially since the belts are now saturated in oil. Install the new retainer with new seals when you replace the timing belt.
It was the front balance shaft seal. I had to buy the retainer kit. But now I think I may have a new problem with a bad head gasket. Thanks for your input
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Old Feb 17, 2013 | 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowDA9teg
It was the front balance shaft seal. I had to buy the retainer kit. But now I think I may have a new problem with a bad head gasket. Thanks for your input
Why do you think it's the head gasket? Are you blowing smoke? Is there any oil in your coolant or coolant in your oil?
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Old Feb 17, 2013 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowDA9teg
I crank it but the rotor from the dizzy only spins. Doesn't even try to crank .
I don't think gas is getting to it. I took of the bolt from the fuel filter and gas came out.
I tested the alternator ,starter and new ignition control module. Replaced the spark plugs for new ones. I hear a noise from the fuel pump .

My spark plug wires are in this orders number 1 (the one on the drivers side) is facing to towards the front of the car on the dizzy, #2 is the top plug on the dizzy,#3 is facing the firewall and #4 is the one towards the bottom. Is this correct ?

I also found a hose that's coming out from the firewall running towards the bottom of the car with nothing attached to it, is that a gas line or does anyone know what it is?
The no start issue is because you have your firing order mixed up, 1-3-4-2 and starts on the bottom terminal going clockwise.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-accord-1990-2002-2/firing-order-2284277/
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 08:47 AM
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Forgot to mention too it's likely a good time to do your timing and pump belt aswell. With that much oil in the timing case it's likely that you belts were covered with oil which will cause the rubber to break down over time and could cause alot of problems if one of them broke. Just my 2 cents
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 1990exr
The no start issue is because you have your firing order mixed up, 1-3-4-2 and starts on the bottom terminal going clockwise.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2284277
Here's how I had it




This is what it does when I crank it
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...5B8DCC702C.mp4

And here after the video . I tried to follow the directions as the last post where the a is spark plug number #1 closest to driver side



Does the same thing as in video
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