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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 08:48 PM
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does anyone make a traction bar that utilises an engine mount for the D-series? it seems rather silly to install a part that does not support the engine the way a stock crossmember does (especially considering the traction bar is usually needed when adding power). i have already ripped the transmission mount plate in half when not using the front mount, i do not want to repeat that.
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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 02:25 PM
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Default Re: traction bar with an engine mount

Usually the traction bars are used with aftermarket mounts that don't use that front mount anyway... But my dad bought an innovative traction bar and it has a spot for the front mount
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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 03:28 PM
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yeah, i know they don't, sadly, the amount of stress that puts on the remaining three means failures.
that innovative bar has provisions for a D series as well as the B series (as advertised)?
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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 05:48 PM
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ESP makes one too. Just get better mounts, front mount is over-rated.
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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 05:59 PM
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so, in other hands, you are not aware of one with the front mount
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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 06:04 PM
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looks like the ESP makes one. and the most expensive of the lot as well.
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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 06:19 PM
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How much HP are you making? There are plenty of people making LOTS of power with only 3 mounts with no problem.
Also, are you using stock mounts or stiffer aftermarket mounts?
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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 06:45 PM
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I broke the transmission mount plate with my poly mounts and no front mount (stock engine). I am not taking any chances.
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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 07:27 PM
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Innovative Mounts:
http://www.innovativemounts.com/sear...how=100&page=1
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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 08:36 PM
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Default Re: traction bar with an engine mount

Here's a better pic of how the innovative bar lines up, and a comparison to the mount location of the factory cross member (90 CRX w/B18A).




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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 10:20 PM
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i've got the original D-series in the car.
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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 11:18 PM
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Yeah, but the comparison at least shows you where the mounting point is on the innovative bar vs. the position of the mount on the stock piece.
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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by F22Master
How much HP are you making? There are plenty of people making LOTS of power with only 3 mounts with no problem.
Also, are you using stock mounts or stiffer aftermarket mounts?


both my hatches are with full race track bars and hasport 62a 3-mount kit. no signs of breakage since '06. both with b16's.

you may need to weld an extra brace into the stock transmission mount plate in order to alleviate your issue.

a customer of mine making 350+ whp, with 50+ dyno runs, has the same setup except that he has got a k-tuned trac bar. same hasport 62a's 3-mount kit with no issues with the mount plate.
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Ash J. Williams
i've got the original D-series in the car.
You can buy a d series mount to go with the IM replacement crossmember
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by crxmadness
You can buy a d series mount to go with the IM replacement crossmember
good info!
do you have the IM crossmember yourself? just how low does it hang? it seems the ESP member fits better, my car is rather low and i would hate to lose any more ground clearance.
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 04:08 PM
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both my hatches are with full race track bars and hasport 62a 3-mount kit. no signs of breakage since '06. both with b16's.

you may need to weld an extra brace into the stock transmission mount plate in order to alleviate your issue.

a customer of mine making 350+ whp, with 50+ dyno runs, has the same setup except that he has got a k-tuned trac bar. same hasport 62a's 3-mount kit with no issues with the mount plate.
the plate failed at the bolts. they ripped through the holes.
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 04:41 PM
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Annnddd... this is why I asked if you were using stock mounts...

Just get a set of stronger Aluminum aftermarket mounts with stiffer bushings. You will only need 3.
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 05:28 PM
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i see, i thought you were referring to the durameter of the rubber.
i am concerned with vibration and noise using aftermarket mounts, plus the additional cost of them. stock is fine, if using all four mounts and i am trying to find a balance between upgrades and comfort. i am no longer the 20 year old kid that enjoys rattles and groans of a rough car on the street.
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 05:56 PM
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Hasports 62a duro mounts are not at all uncomfortable. They are basically just a little above OEM, but they are MUCH stronger. As long as your engine doesnt vibrate more than it should, you will be fine.
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 06:05 PM
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LOL, all i want to do is use a SRT4 intercooler, that requires a half size radiator, that requires aftermaket crossmember, that requires aftermarket engine mounts
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 08:00 PM
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Default Re: traction bar with an engine mount

Originally Posted by Ash J. Williams
good info!
do you have the IM crossmember yourself? just how low does it hang? it seems the ESP member fits better, my car is rather low and i would hate to lose any more ground clearance.
Originally Posted by Ash J. Williams
LOL, all i want to do is use a SRT4 intercooler, that requires a half size radiator, that requires aftermaket crossmember, that requires aftermarket engine mounts
I have the replacement crossmember and yes it hangs low, I will try to take a picture tomorrow. one of the advantages of the replacement crossmember is that it holds a halfsize radiator.
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