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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 03:29 PM
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Hello Honda Tech community, after lurking for a while on and off, I've had to make an account. I'd like to head swap a vtec into my non-vtec 99 civic ej6. After going to the local upullit all they had were the f23's on 98 accords. I've searched and cannot find if it's even humanly possible to do some sort of frankenstein head swap onto a d16 block without fail. Would it work? -thanks
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Absolutely not.
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 03:33 PM
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why is that? would i have to do the whole engine swap?
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 03:56 PM
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Ditch your d & get a 99-00 b20 w/ gsr head, arp bolts & tune..
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 03:59 PM
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yeah. the f series head is larger than d series, the cylinders are wider and the bolt pattern is different.
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 04:04 PM
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Glad I checked here before going and tearing it out later this week, thanks
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 04:08 PM
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Hello Honda Tech community, after lurking for a while on and off, I've had to make an account. I'd like to head swap a vtec into my non-vtec 99 civic ej6. After going to the local upullit all they had were the f23's on 98 accords. I've searched and cannot find if it's even humanly possible to do some sort of frankenstein head swap onto a d16 block without fail. Would it work? -thanks

Why don't you just start by telling us what you are really trying to acheive. Then it might become a little more attractive to you, give a more feasable path to making more horsepower. Make sense hp as opposed to not-so-make sense hp. Get it?! There is a lot you can do with what you have AND still have fun,,, to not have to step into high dollar swaps.

As an example; you can get a lot of mileage out of a header, exhaust system and better filter. Plug in your suspension before going into the engine to deep. If it handles better, YOU wil have a better seat-of-your-pants feel with the car. Believe me.
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 04:15 PM
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I'm looking mostly for that beloved vtec ha
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 04:17 PM
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So. No plan then.
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 04:17 PM
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but I understand what you're saying, I'm not looking for something that'll make it an 8 second car, but just something a little more fun than what I have haha
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When you get serious then we can help you.
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 04:21 PM
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Well, what would you recommend for what I've got going? (without shelling out thousands of dollars.) I'm open for ideas.
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Boost or swap. If you've not got the budget for either then you have no options.
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 04:26 PM
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What's your suggestions for the swap? You seem to know what you're talking about. It's just the flat out d16y7 in the 99 civic lx. Should I bother with a head swap, or go full engine?
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 04:27 PM
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What's your budget? What are your goals for the car? Let's act like we've put at least a little thought into this.
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 04:30 PM
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I'm looking to spend about a grand on an engine but then I'd like to get off the steelys soon though and get some wheels, then move into suspension. But it would seem fairly useless to look flashy with a really basic engine.
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 04:41 PM
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http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...USDM%20Engines
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 04:42 PM
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I don't think your getting a b series vtec engine in your car for a grand.
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Originally Posted by tr1bulat1ons
I'm looking to spend about a grand on an engine but then I'd like to get off the steelys soon though and get some wheels, then move into suspension. But it would seem fairly useless to look flashy with a really basic engine.
You can pick up a decent low mile D15B for around 800-1000.

Here you go - EBAY - JDM-Honda-D15B-VTEC-Engine-and-5-Speed-Transmission
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 04:47 PM
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Yeah, that really doesn't seem feasible right now with starting school after graduation. Might as well wait and do it right instead of a **** poor job. An unrelated question though, after looking at your build, I really like the 3M carbon fiber vinyl, do you recommend it?
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 04:48 PM
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That's probably your best bang for the buck.
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 04:49 PM
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What are the benefits of the D15?
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 04:51 PM
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Gas mileage ?
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 04:53 PM
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There's a d15z1 fairly close to my house. Is this even worth the look? http://buffalo.craigslist.org/pts/3472292438.html
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Unless you boost a d series they are slow engines.
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