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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 07:42 AM
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Hello.

Aquired a 1992 Prelude with 2.3 H22A in it and Was looking for some advice.

Already purchased a Low Mileage Motor From Sunrise Motors.
it's a 2.3 DOHC VTECH.
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Motor Is in great condition and I would like to Turbo Charge it.

Now I am sitting here looking at all sorts of turbo charger options some of which i can aquire cheap from friends. I was wondering what works well.
Wondering If I can build my own setup or if I am better off just putting together a Cookie Cutter setup that has had good history.

I'm kinda new to Turbo's so take it easy on me.

Thanks for reading.

-Cancerman
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 08:50 AM
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First of all, welcome to the forum. Second, what is your budget? What kind of power are you wanting to make?

Making a turbo setup reliable falls down to your choice of injectors, turbo manifold, engine management, tuner and how good you are at maintenance.
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 09:47 AM
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If you have to ask you aren't ready to even think about turbocharging. Read all the FAQs in the Forced Induction section. Anyone that tries to spoon feed it to you isn't helping you and is not your friend. Anyone that recommends Ebay should be shot on sight.
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by grumblemarc
Anyone that recommends Ebay should be shot on sight.
OK, no more eBay. Lol. Not but like 98VTEC said, is how much power you want and most important for you is willing to spend. There are many different companies to choose from but just research around on own and see what falls within your budget and if round it down to like 2-3 choices, then ask what they recommend out of them. But do your homework of searching first, don't want to get an turbo to then replace it again unless in need of more power. I building an NA motor then down the road will try turbo hopefully.
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Old Dec 9, 2012 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by grumblemarc
If you have to ask you aren't ready to even think about turbocharging. Read all the FAQs in the Forced Induction section. Anyone that tries to spoon feed it to you isn't helping you and is not your friend. Anyone that recommends Ebay should be shot on sight.


Or the reason i was asking an open ended or vague question was because i wanted advice from someone familiar with HONDA cars considering I am not completely new to cars. Just honda. Thanks.


" OK, no more eBay. Lol. Not but like 98VTEC said, is how much power you want and most important for you is willing to spend. There are many different companies to choose from but just research around on own and see what falls within your budget and if round it down to like 2-3 choices, then ask what they recommend out of them. But do your homework of searching first, don't want to get an turbo to then replace it again unless in need of more power. I building an NA motor then down the road will try turbo hopefully."

Okay. Looking for at least 400 FWHP. Not being greedy want an every day driver and to be able to manage wide tires in the rain. I live in Illinois -.- Have to garage it soon. Thats why im jumping on here for some input.

My Friend has a T33 he said he'll sell me for a good price. So i guess i got around 1000$ for everything else if i can make that work effectively.

That being said. To those who take me as being Contradicting and naive note this. I KNOW that you can slam any system together force the Computer to love it and Rig it to boost. I'm wondering what people who have had them in their personal car or have raced them or built them often would like to say about their personal favorites. I wanna Make a nice list to work with before i start Consoling in a proffessional local source. If need be.

Thanks. Hey and sry for huge pics >.> Did it from a phone.

-Cancerman
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Old Dec 9, 2012 | 02:55 AM
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For our beloved H series motors, you are going to either want to go Mahle Gold series piston and rings if you decide to keep the factory FRM block sleeves.
Those piston and ring setup usually costs around $700.

In order to stay reliable on boost or even in NA form, you need to go iron sleeves, which on the average is about $1500 done by a very reputable machine shop, which should include the sleeves as well.

Or you can purchase pre-sleeved H blocks from other luders or swappers who own sleeved H motors.

Like this: http://hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=3107812

H motors are notorious for burning oil due to the ring lands that cannot handle the abrasiveness of the FRM)Fiber Reinforced Metal) sleeves which are strong as hell, just not equally matched to the metallergy of the ring lands that come in the motor.

The first FRM motor Honda ever put out was the 90-91 Prelude B21a1 motor. Its counter part the B20a5 motor was an iron sleeved block that outlasts its younger brother by leaps and bounds in terms of reliability.

So before you start thinking about boosting, read read and read some more on H series motors and their capabilities.

Other than that, turbo charging is turbo charging.
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Old Dec 9, 2012 | 05:58 AM
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1000$ is nowhere near enough money for a reliable 400whp setup. Sorry to burst your bubble. Start your research and start saving. You will need at least 5k to do it somewhat right. But even then, you'll need some wiggle room, especially if you cant do most of it yourself.
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Old Dec 9, 2012 | 06:04 AM
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You really need to save more money. Boosting the stock motor is ok but you have to be prepared for it to blow up. Especially pumping 400 through it. With only a 1000 to work with, you better find some amazingly awesome deals and a tuner willing to do charity work. For a basic, well rounded turbo system, you can expect to pay 3000 or more.

Injectors?
Fuel pump?
Clutch?
Tuning?

You can turbo a car for 1000 but its with junk parts.
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Old Dec 9, 2012 | 10:40 AM
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Okay I guess budget gets raised i was more than prepared for that.

I guess I'll Just work with the motor for now plan this all out right and get er done overtime.
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Old Dec 9, 2012 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 98vtec
You really need to save more money. Boosting the stock motor is ok but you have to be prepared for it to blow up. Especially pumping 400 through it. With only a 1000 to work with, you better find some amazingly awesome deals and a tuner willing to do charity work. For a basic, well rounded turbo system, you can expect to pay 3000 or more.

Injectors?
Fuel pump?
Clutch?
Tuning?

You can turbo a car for 1000 but its with junk parts.

just drop that nice *** motor in there and have fun. I have the same in my 92 the only difference is mine is a vtec not a vtech.
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Old Dec 9, 2012 | 02:24 PM
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Can you educate me on this 2.3 h22a you have in the car now? Is this built already prior because you could use that exact motor and build it up. That will help with your money and sell the h23a1 you have
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 07:46 AM
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The motor in the car is pushing almost 300kmiles. That's why I got the low miles motor to build. And lol yeah VTEC ** -.-
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 08:23 AM
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Put the motor in the car and rebuild a motor on the side that needs it.
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