so i want to buy the traction bar from innovative but im concerned about the motor mount the original cross member has i dont see the traction bar holding it up from the front or no spot for the mount to go on?? id like some feedback?

heres the link : http://www.innovativemounts.com/Prod...ductCode=50110

 

Some people have said they didnt need it with there stiff mounts installed. If have read a few people that have made good power and tried running without the front mount have cracked there transmissions cases. I run my stock crossmember because I dont have a front traction bar and i want to keep the motor as solid as possible

 

Go with the strongest kit of the Market ESP, best Heims available, strongest bar period, jack on it without bowing. Best Front Torque Mount Kit as well. Imagine what happens when you launch if bar is too thin. Not to mention proven after time and time...

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Yep and to this day I am still very against not running a front mount. The amount of crap I had to go through to fix my Trans issue as cheap as possible made me realize how much it would cost for someone who wasn't as mechanically inclined.

 

^ I couldnt beleive you ran without one, then after seeign pictures of your broken trans case, it reaffirmed my beleif of how important the front mount is.

 

It broke doing a burnout on street tires. Imagine launching on slicks lol

 

Not referring to OEM but our Front Torque Mount Kit from not running one in DC H22 and H23V it's just a night and day difference. Power seems to bite more on the ground and the shifts are definetly more solid and quicker... I feel getting the Traction Bar System without the Front Torque Mount Kit is like getting 2/3 of the function. Our Front Torque Mount Kit is adjustable which you can dial in on the tension, which should play a roll at the track. It also has to add life to the rest of the 3 mounts. Rear mount especially wont take as much abuse with less bushing movement

 

I know the reason a lot of people are showing interest in the Innovative offering is because of the wait time associated with ordering from ESP. I, personally, would prefer to give my money to ESP as I think you guys do excellent work and help keep our tiny aftermarket alive; but three months is an awful long time to wait for anything, even custom welding work.

With that being said, I think this would be an excellent opportunity for ESP to defend themselves and explain to us, 1) why the long wait, 2) what makes the wait worth it, and 3) if there are any steps being taken to reduce that wait.

Like I said, in a perfect world, I would choose ESP over any competitor for these kinds of things, but in the real world, it's starting to make less and less sense to do so.

 

I didnt know you could jack form the esp bar....eff me, that would have saved me so much time. Im gonna do this from now on, i was worried, but after reading this info from the methaphorical horses mouth, im going to try it.

 

i heard you have to wait 3 months why so long??? mr. esp

 

because quality takes time, and they aren't a large mass produce business!

 

also it would help is ESP were willing to accept paypal rather than just money order....jus saying

 

I do not mass produce our products simple, I build these parts with my bare hands and limited tooling. Takes time. We are more black smiths then anything. Much of what you see today of other Companies is made for the masses and isn't idealy the best quality product.

2 Man operation. A Traction Bar System we make from scratch takes a better part of a day. Multiple this by prior orders thus there is a wait. Yes wait time as of the begining of the year will be less as we will be fully caught up. Welding is art and a skill, I take pride that in several years we have been around I have had less then 8 products come back to me because of a weld.


Yes you can jack on our Prelude/Accord Traction Bars we recommend jacking on the end plate. A simple 2x4 a foot long with a rag to protect the powder coating will be a good aid. Same if trying to jack in the middle foot long 2x4 and rag will spread the load.

Yes we take both Email US.

I could really go into detail about why our products are much better and then you would understand I can put up atleast 20 strong points. However I would be just doing quality control for other Co's. Our Fabricator/Welder my father has been a master mechanic/welder since he was 18. He is in his 60s. He has built hundreds of Hot Rods to date from ground up. He also built numerous race engines for known people in Southern Cal in the 70s and 80s. There is certain knowledge and know how needed to be successful and make a quality product.

 

Hello! I haven't heard from you guys via E-mail in a while so I thought i'd contact you here. I've purchased H22 motor mounts for the 88-91 prelude back in mid-June and I'd like an update. Please check your email for any messages from viluth_phimmasouk@hotmail.com. Thanks! Glad to see that you guys are talking to your customers.

 

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Hahaha try 6+ months.

Don't get me wrong, their quality is outstanding and I will be ordering from them in the future. Just don't get disappointed when your order is delayed.

 

I had to wait a while but it was worth it, your ESP bar will be hand made to order, perfect fitment, super clean welds means amazing quality.

I too have jacked the car from the bar, I did like mentioned since I know the bar is strong. A 1ft 2x4, a rag and you'll be able to jack the car up to put stands on the lift points beneath the side rockers. The bar showed absolutely no signs of bowing when lifting.

 

Fitting a ESP traction bar is on my list of future mods,
They are such a vital part of the car that i would only
go with the best.

 

I'm running 75a mounts, no front bar, innovative traction. The motor doesn't move at all under load. On back order and shipped to Canada, still only took 7 business days.