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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 03:39 PM
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After doing my grocery and Gavin the car sit for a few minutes the car won't start, the engine wil turn, but no fire, I have to literally wait until the car is cold again before it starts
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 07:28 PM
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Please help if any of you guys encounter this issue
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 07:51 PM
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sounds like main relay
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 08:10 AM
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^^^ also my guess, do you hear the fuel pump priming when you turn on the ign. switch?

When engine will not start, turn ign. switch to the run position, [not all the way to start] and listen for the fuel pump priming, [running for a few sec.] if you do not hear the fuel pump, the problem is most likely the PGM-FI Main Relay. 94
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 04:27 PM
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Main relay was replaced 5 months ago, and the fuel primes, I can hear it when the key is turned to run position. The distributor is also replaced, i have lifetime warranty,I tried starting it this morning and it won't start now, what could it be? Can't think of anything else
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 06:47 AM
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You need to check to see what is missing, fuel or spark or compression.

Even though the fuel pump primes you may not have fuel, injectors may not be working, [no power or no ground pulse from ECU/ECM], easy enough to check, try starting the engine a few times then immediately remove a spark plug and inspect the end, is it "wet" with gas, does it smell of gas, if you put a light, [match/lighter] to it will it burn?

To check for spark use an HEI spark tester or at the very least pull a spark plug lead and plug a spark plug into it, ground the plug and have someone crank the engine, or if you are alone, do a bypass jump. 94
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 04:44 PM
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Default Re: My D16Z6 won't start when hot

the spark plug seems wet, but looks oily, I am doing a compression test tomorrow. If the compression is low, would you still be able to start the car?, because when the car first started acting up, I was able to start it if I let it keep cranking for literally one whole minute, then it will start, but it will start really slow, kinda bogging a little and then engine will run fine,
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 05:21 AM
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It, [starting or not starting] will depend on how low the compression is. 94
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 05:50 AM
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is there a misfire when you drive or does it bog at all?
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 11:49 AM
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After compression check:
Cylinder 1- 90,120,140,169
Cylinder 2- 70,100,120,140
Cylinder 3- 70,100,120,149
Cylinder 4- 70,120,150,165
** I also noticed presence of coolant on cylinder 4, as it squirted out while testing cylinder one, no more squirted out after the initial squirt
There was no misfire when the motor was running
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 03:54 PM
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Numbers are way off, did you do the compression test with a warm engine and the throttle wide open?

184 is "spec", 175-180 is good, with no more then 28 psi diff. between cylinders.

169 and 140 = 29 psi diff. not a lot but over the limit, this assumes the test was done properly.

Also the PSI is less important then the diff. between cylinders as diff. compression testers will read differently on the same engine.

However, coolant in a cylinder means a HG problem most likely.

So question is, was the compression test done properly? 94
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 09:44 PM
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Default Re: My D16Z6 won't start when hot

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Numbers are way off, did you do the compression test with a warm engine and the throttle wide open?

184 is "spec", 175-180 is good, with no more then 28 psi diff. between cylinders.

169 and 140 = 29 psi diff. not a lot but over the limit, this assumes the test was done properly.

Also the PSI is less important then the diff. between cylinders as diff. compression testers will read differently on the same engine.

However, coolant in a cylinder means a HG problem most likely.

So question is, was the compression test done properly? 94
****I think I did it correctly except, like the manual said, warm engine, it was still cold when I did it because I couldn't get the car to start, I unplugged the fuel pump fuse, throttle wide open, and started with cylinder one, it is really hard to start the car, I have to literally keep the key in start position and leave it there for a long time, and when I got it to start, it boggs at first and then it will run fine, but now I see white smoke ;(
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 06:04 AM
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headgasket
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 06:07 AM
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Ditto the above, white smoke = HG. 94
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 01:39 PM
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Default Re: My D16Z6 won't start when hot

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Ditto the above, white smoke = HG. 94
thank you guys, off to autozone to get HG and get started to work on it this weekend, blah;(
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Old Oct 28, 2012 | 11:40 PM
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Default Re: My D16Z6 won't start when hot

Most likely headgasket leak between cyl 2/3. Easy fix.
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