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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 10:22 AM
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http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/3331552109.html

ok, this guy just posted this on CL and says it's a "fully built" H22

now given that i'm not "too familiar" with the H series motors, i don't think that an H22 that is naturally aspirated can put out "350-400 whp".

he's got no pics up, and no dyno sheet to back it up..

i call bullshit.

so, is it even possible for an H22 motor to achieve that kinda HP?
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 10:31 AM
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unless he runs a really high compression (like over 14:1) and methanol gas i would say no
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 10:44 AM
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Certain H22 combinations are definitely capable of making 350-400whp, it all depends on the setup. The ad states "high compression" and E85. Two ingredients for making power but E85 isn't going to cut it.

Email/call/txt the guy and get more details on the setup. If you skeptical about his reply detailing the combination of parts used, just post back in this thread for a confirmation of "It's possible" or "Not happening".

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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 10:50 AM
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That website is kind of funny. That del sol looks worse than the del sol shell i have in storage.
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 11:12 AM
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lol.

Just looked at the website. I'm going to go out on a limb on the craigslist ad, judging by their website, DragonKustoms.com hasn't/isn't building 350-400whp H series.
Could be wrong....but not likely.
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 01:02 PM
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Just the price is wrong. It takes a lot more money to build a car with less HP

Same motor ran 12.00 in a Accord.

http://forums.nwp4life.com/zerothrea...print&id=38110
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 01:38 PM
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That's Scott's (member 2point6) F series build. What's your point? He was selling the whole car for $8500. That included "12k" Engine and "5k" Trans. It is extremely difficult to get even half the money invested back when selling these kinds of built to race setups.

Either way, this guy more than likely doesn't have what he claims to have. Reason being, there are/have been only a few guys to make that kind of power N/A and DragonKustoms.com, I'm sure isn't one of the them.
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 01:53 PM
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he says car makes between 350-400. if the car was dyno tuned he would have a little more specific of a number.. no? so you can only assume he doesnt have it tuned.. if it does exist, is this what you wanna get caught up in?
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 02:14 PM
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Bullshit! The guy is a dreamer.
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 07:27 PM
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yea, that's what threw me off. was the huge range of "possible" HP

now if this were a turbo setup, i could see a difference due to boost increase. but with an all motor setup, it seems like a build like that would consistently produce the same numbers. and an exact number at that.

and also, doesn't higher compression motors require higher octane gas? so that doesn't seem right that it's "tuned" for E85 crap gas
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 09:06 PM
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Im fairly convinced that my mr2 makes 900 hp based off the fact its a stock 4age with no o2 sensor thats what my butt feels too.
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 09:29 PM
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he dreaming~
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by AllMtrRex
That's Scott's (member 2point6) F series build. What's your point? He was selling the whole car for $8500. That included "12k" Engine and "5k" Trans. It is extremely difficult to get even half the money invested back when selling these kinds of built to race setups.

Either way, this guy more than likely doesn't have what he claims to have. Reason being, there are/have been only a few guys to make that kind of power N/A and DragonKustoms.com, I'm sure isn't one of the them.

My point is that it takes a lot of money and time to make something like the ad claims to be and like you said Dragongkustoms does not look like they can make it happen.
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 03:12 AM
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How the hell does anyone get that sort of power out of an H22?

The advert is dead now, I can only assume it had a massive stroker kit on it?
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Kozy.
How the hell does anyone get that sort of power out of an H22?

The advert is dead now, I can only assume it had a massive stroker kit on it?
350 + can be done all motor on an H22..

its been done.
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 05:10 AM
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At 2157cc? At what RPM and what torque?

That sounds dubious, but then US figures are invariably inflated from UK figures...
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by neophish
http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/3331552109.html

ok, this guy just posted this on CL and says it's a "fully built" H22

now given that i'm not "too familiar" with the H series motors, i don't think that an H22 that is naturally aspirated can put out "350-400 whp".

he's got no pics up, and no dyno sheet to back it up..

i call bullshit.

so, is it even possible for an H22 motor to achieve that kinda HP?


yes its possible

i broke 350whp (dynojet) and dont have a dyno sheet to back it up, no need for it. when your on the dyno tuning a race engine and trying to find power before hitting the track, the last thing your worried about is a dyno sheet.

after hundreds of dyno passes on several engines you just dont worry about dyno sheets. at least i dont anyway
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 04:03 PM
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w0w.. the way she must pull..
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