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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 06:50 PM
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i got a 91 crx si fuel pump not kicking on and no spark. ive replaced the fuel pump and dizzy,main relay checked every fuse 3 times and checked all the grounds. checked the wiring. got to the ecu and the red light isnt coming on and the check engine light stays on. help please
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 07:21 PM
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That sounds like a bad ECU to me, though I've been outa the game for a minute. If i remember correctly though if you have a CEL and no light in the window, then bad ECU. Or maybe it was constant light in the window? Anyway, I'd suggest seeing if you can find another PM6 ECU to borrow and drop in there, see if it starts. Or alternatively, you could drop yours into someone elses car and see what happens. I don't know if you'll get a CEL if there is no power to the ECU, but you might try and "backdoor" the ECU plug pins with a multimeter and see if the pins for +12V show any power. Personally, I have a good relationship with my local junkyard, so if I were in your shoes, I would go there and see if they have a PM6 I could borrow for a bit, and then buy if it fixes my car. At any rate i think you are looking at an ECU... You could unscrew the top of the case for it too and look for any cooked components within, and smell for burnt electronics smell.

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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 07:31 PM
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thanks for the reply. yea thats what im thinkin but the local junkyard dosent have one. when i unplug the ecu the cel goes out. checked all the voltage also
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try your local craigslist, post that you need one in the car parts section. Also, check any local import meets, someone might be able to help you out.
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 05:23 AM
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Is the G101 ground wire on the thermostat housing clean and tight?
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 06:57 AM
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yes checked it twice.
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 07:43 AM
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The main relay receives voltage from three different fuses. Test the main relay plug for voltage at these three terminals.
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 01:57 PM
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main relay is good ecu is good. gonna try the ignition switch now
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 05:54 PM
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ignition switch didnt fix it. any ideas??
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 07:45 PM
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Send me your email address and I will send you a manual that has trouble diagnosis steps you can follow its a pdf so make sure you ha e adobe Reader installed on your computer
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 06:08 PM
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Default Re: fuel pump not comin on and no spark

found a green wire with red stripe in the underhood fuse box that has no power or grounded its in a plug with two other wires anyone know what this is?
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 07:30 AM
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Might be a bad main relay. The go bad after awhile.it could be ur ecu.
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 08:04 AM
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tried a few different main relays and two ecus
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 08:12 AM
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Don't overlook this simple possibility:

Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
The main relay receives voltage from three different fuses. Test the main relay plug for voltage at these three terminals.
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 08:26 AM
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what three terminals?
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 08:31 AM
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Main relay plug --> The Yel/Wht (off), Blk/Yel (ON[II]), Blu/Wht (ON[III]) wire terminals should have battery voltage.
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 08:38 AM
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thanks i will try that in just a few minutes
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 10:18 AM
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Default Re: fuel pump not comin on and no spark

ok had 12.5v to yellow/white, had 12.5 to black/yellow and the blue/white didnt have any by turning the the key to 3 if i press the clutch an do it i get 9v
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 10:26 AM
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main relay, listen for a click when you turn the power on to everything in the car (key on position), i always let my fuel pump prime before i start my EF, just turn it to on and wait for the click

if it clicks its not your main relay
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 10:51 AM
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it clicks but no fuel pump. i can make the pump come on if i ground the test light and stick it in the socket with the green/black wire but still no spark
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 11:11 AM
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Did you ground the Grn/Blk wire at the main relay connector or the ECU connector?
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 11:35 AM
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Default Re: fuel pump not comin on and no spark

main relay
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 11:36 AM
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Ground the Grn/Blk wires at the ECU plug (A12, A14). Does the fuel pump run?
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 11:41 AM
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yes fuel pump runs. so ground both wires. are they labeled
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 11:43 AM
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Both pins have Grn/Blk wires. The test can be done with ECU connector A unplugged.

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