Is there any advantage of switching over to the Haltech? My tuner has been trying to get me to ditch my Hondata and go with the Haltech. I know Haltech offers a built in turbo timer and some other small features that Hondata doesnt. I just dont know if I should get rid of my s300 and go with the Haltech or not. I am debating a COP setup over the winter as we have been having ignition break up in high rpms even after putting a brand new distributor on the car.

Basically I am just wanting to see what the pros and cons are of switching over.

 

The haltech system has a lot of features.

Hondata s300 has coil on plug & traction control capability.
There are several cars running 8s and 9s on the ems without problems.

http://www.phearable.net/shoppingcar...300-p-294.html

S300 has a coil on plug module which is $395

 

If you are going to run coil on plug, I would go K-Series coils, the Haltech Sport 1000 and a good trigger (T1 cam trigger) and you will be golden.

Did this recently on a B-Series all motor setup with great results but a turbo car would work great as well.

As for the S300 I prefer using the M&W box versus trying to go COP, seems to have better consistency for me. I havent done any cars yet with the TC box, but cars were going 8s/9s before traction control so its not like you couldnt do it as well.

Both systems work great...but generally if your tuner is trying to get you to go one way, and you actually trust him...generally I say do what your tuner says!

 

Thanks for the input guys, I do trust my tuner very much so. We was thinking CBR coils, the T1 trigger and Haltech. I will talk to my tuner about the K series coils though. This is going on my built GSR. I am tired of ignition breakup lol.

 

I've used a sprint 500 a bit, the software is really flexible and easy to use. If you need features that a stock 20 year old Honda ecu can't give you, you really can't go wrong with the Haltech.

 

I like haltech's software and their staff, however if you have s300 already I don't see why you would need to upgrade to haltech for a better ignition system.

Hondata's coil on plug has worked great for me on several 600 hp cars and one that makes 800+.

It is very easy to install & use.

 

So many choices...the Hondata CPR kit is $395 and the coil packs are $45 a piece at Majestic. The t1 cam trigger alone is $550 Sadly money is an issue here, decisions decisions. I know I am tired of ignition issues.

 

Going to a CPR module won't require a full re-tune either which will save you money.

If you do go with the CPR kit, I would use K-series coils and a cnc coil plate so that the coils bolt to the cnc coil plate adapter.

You can see images of what they look like on:
http://www.phearable.net/shoppingcar...s-c-97_98.html

 

I missed the part where he said he had an s300 already. I completely agree.

 

I wonder if the COP alone will solve ignition issues or if an igntion box such as M&W or MSD will be required?

 

The CPR module with coil has worked perfect.

 

Thanks for the help. I just gotta figure out what the hell I want to do here

 

Stick with your S300 and keep your eye out on an M&W pro10 with a crane or HVCII coil. It will be your most cost effective route. I picked up my M&W pro10 and HVCII coil for about $500 shipped of a member on here.

No sense in spending unnecessary money brother. You can put that money to better use with your rebuild.

 

Go with the CPR. You can operate a CDI system with it too if you need more juice later. M&W Pro14 on a Honda ECU would be sweet.

 

I think the op like myself would like some definitive info on the cpr s300 setup. I have a few guys that would like to try it but although it has been out for a while, there are no reviews on it as such on here. Thank you MTber for posting your ACTUAL experiences with the cpr setup. I looked on your site at the integra making over 600 hp with the cpr. Since you've used it on a few cars, could you supply info like:-


1. Are you able to run moderate plug gaps (28-32) reliably with the cpr on boosted hondas?
2. How would you compare it to M&w Pro 10 and crane ps92 coil?
3. Would K series coils without some sort of ignition amplifier be good enough for 600-700 hp repeatably?
4. Are there any starting issues with waiting for the s300 to sync before it starts?
5. Is the ignition noticeably smoother when operating? (no pops/misfires)
6. What would you say the limit is of the cpr system with k series coils?

Maybe a complete review would help the op to make an informed choice.
Thanks in advance MTBER!!

 

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...3021590&page=3

 

Dead on!! I have been following that thread in the drag section as well

 

1. I made 700 hp on .030 gap 9 range iridium plugs.
2. We switched a car from the m&w pro 10 with a crane coil to the CPR and it actually performed better. This maybe an isolated insident but it worked better for the customer.
3. Yes, we have a car making 800 on the system that has not had a single issue. We did have to gap the plugs down to .022
4. No
5. Yes it is smooth & clean
6. My guess would be 900+ hp before you need to add a cdi controller

 

^^ Win! I am waiting on a price quote back on a Haltech just to see if its something that intrest me.

 

We just installed the CPR system to our shop car and have not had the chance to get it on the dyno to tune it, but right away the cold engine starts were more rapid and the car at idle just seemed to like the extra spark.
Can not wait to get it on the rollers to see what power output we can squeeze out of it. Before we had spark/ignition issues after or around 525whp.

 

I'm currently debating on getting the CPR kit to go with my s300 or going aem with a t1 pick up and there coil on plug set up...I've also got a m&w pro 10 also and would like to know if this can be used along with the CPR kit and if there is any benefits in doing so!