Suspension & Brakes Theory, alignment, spring rates....

Bouncy Ride

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 15, 2012 | 10:32 PM
  #1  
BKJJ77's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 136
Likes: 0
Default Bouncy Ride

I have my car lowered on KYB AGXs with eibach Ground Control
Its just recently started being really bounce after i lowered the back more
I know that its bouncy because i am bottoming out my strut...my question is, if i get extended top hats will that leave more room for my strut so its not all only on the spring and therfore stop my ride from bouncing so much...also what kind of extended top hats should i get...Thanks
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2012 | 03:09 AM
  #2  
grumblemarc's Avatar
The Grumpiest
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 28,333
Likes: 24
From: Oak Ridge, TN, USA
Default Re: Bouncy Ride

Sounds like your shocks are blown. AGXs really don't stand up to lowering. Top hats won't fix the bounciness.
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2012 | 09:05 AM
  #3  
BKJJ77's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 136
Likes: 0
Default Re: Bouncy Ride

if i raise the back a little the bouncnyness goes away so i know they arent blown
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2012 | 09:09 AM
  #4  
alphalanos's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,756
Likes: 0
From: nigeria
Default Re: Bouncy Ride

like marc said those shocks are not meant to be very low. i had them and they blew out in a year. extended top hats may help a little but it is not the solution. you need a high performance shock meant for higher spring rate. what rate ground controls do you have. you can go with koni yellow if your rates are less than 550 or so.
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2012 | 09:35 AM
  #5  
grumblemarc's Avatar
The Grumpiest
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 28,333
Likes: 24
From: Oak Ridge, TN, USA
Default Re: Bouncy Ride

Patient: Doc. It hurts when I do this.
Doctor: Then don't do that.

See above post. Even a mild drop is pushing those KYBs.
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2012 | 12:05 PM
  #6  
BKJJ77's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 136
Likes: 0
Default Re: Bouncy Ride

thats how my car came...so ur say i should get some koni yellows
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2012 | 12:26 PM
  #7  
grumblemarc's Avatar
The Grumpiest
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 28,333
Likes: 24
From: Oak Ridge, TN, USA
Default Re: Bouncy Ride

Originally Posted by alphalanos
what rate ground controls do you have?
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2012 | 03:49 PM
  #8  
FlewByU352's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,770
Likes: 2
From: Florida
Default Re: Bouncy Ride

Couldn't a bouncy ride be from both under dampened or over dampened? I'm having a serious issue right now with that. This one bridge is super bumpy for damn near every car even stock! I can't tell if it's packing up or rebounding too fast but it is very harsh to drive on. Should I just keep making laps and adjusting?
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2012 | 05:19 PM
  #9  
grumblemarc's Avatar
The Grumpiest
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 28,333
Likes: 24
From: Oak Ridge, TN, USA
Default Re: Bouncy Ride

I guess if you're talking about mismatched shock/spring/ride height combo. I'll let someone better versed in brake tech answer.
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2012 | 08:42 PM
  #10  
98civdx's Avatar
Master Detailer
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 15,511
Likes: 22
Default Re: Bouncy Ride

Spring rates, and how low are you?
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2012 | 11:02 PM
  #11  
BKJJ77's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 136
Likes: 0
Default Re: Bouncy Ride

can i just get a simple yes or no if extended top hats will do anything
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2012 | 08:39 AM
  #12  
98civdx's Avatar
Master Detailer
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 15,511
Likes: 22
Default Re: Bouncy Ride

Originally Posted by BKJJ77
can i just get a simple yes or no if extended top hats will do anything


If you would read, you would see that question has alreay been answered.
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2012 | 08:48 AM
  #13  
TunerN00b's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 7,539
Likes: 5
From: Sherman Oaks, CA, United States
Default Re: Bouncy Ride

Originally Posted by FlewByU352
Couldn't a bouncy ride be from both under dampened or over dampened? I'm having a serious issue right now with that. This one bridge is super bumpy for damn near every car even stock! I can't tell if it's packing up or rebounding too fast but it is very harsh to drive on. Should I just keep making laps and adjusting?
Bouncy and harsh are opposing conditions. It isn't really possible for a car to suffer from both at different times, without something seriously wrong with the car.

Bouncy is under damped. Harsh is over damped.

Under damped is caused by an inadequate amount of shock for the spring rates. If you're too low, and the bumpstops come into play under suspension movement, then the spring rates rapidly increase and leave the shocks inadequate. Or the rates are just too high for the shocks. Or the shocks are already blown. Or a million other possibilities.

It's really impossible for us to diagnose a suspension issue over the internet, more so with modified suspensions (how much shock travel is left at static ride height before bumpstops are hit, how much total shock travel is available, and many other questions that need to be answered), and especially the way people typically fail to adequately describe what the car is actually doing.

Stop looking for a single part solution. Start looking at the suspension system as a whole, to find an actual solution.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Ricky07
Suspension & Brakes
35
Feb 20, 2013 10:46 AM
B18C_DD
Suspension & Brakes
9
Aug 11, 2006 07:01 AM
integraboy22
Suspension & Brakes
1
Jan 24, 2006 05:31 AM
natasD5nt
Honda Prelude
7
Sep 1, 2003 09:12 AM
integ_newbie
Acura Integra
2
Aug 10, 2001 09:01 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:48 PM.