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00 civic Si --OEM BUILD PLEASE HELP HELP!!!!!

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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 10:57 AM
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Hi, I am really STUMP on this rebuilt. The car was boosted and stop running and I rebuilt it with alot of brand new parts, list down on the bottom of the page. Took the head and the block to a shop to be resurface and rebuild everything on the car. PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THE VIDEO AND GIVE ME SOME OF YOUR INPUT OR THOUGHTS ON THE CAR THNK YOU.

-only thing I can think of is cutting down the dowel pins cuz its seems to be burning coolant and wont idle correctly, the headgasket was put on correct, its the 2nd one. did coolant pressure test seems to hold on cold start but on hot start it loses pressure



Take a peek at the video and tell me what you think. If you have any questions, just ask.


Cliff notes:
-coolant is not mixing with oil
-cylinder head and block were both resurfaced
-stock bore
-new rings, bearings, gaskets, valves, valve guides, valve stem seals, head bolts, plugs, wires
-cylinder was checked for straightness by machine shop and came out good
-running on 2nd head gasket now with copper spray
-new head bolts torqued to spec and in sequence
-head bolt bores cleaned and blow dried
-dowel pins fully seated
-added an extra washer to each head bolt to ensure that the head bolts aren't bottoming out from the resurfacing
-coolant lines correct
-3rd intake manifold gasket
-OBD1 Injectors swapped with known good injectors
-tried new TPS and MAP but still no change
-No CEL's
-tried another known good ECU
-tried another known good distributor
-MAP and TPS connectors are not switched

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=dagm3ShGyE4
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 11:11 AM
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My vote is for cracked sleeve or cracked head
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 11:48 AM
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Did you have the bores honed/checked at all?
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 12:27 PM
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ok with the block Decked and the Head Milled you most likely have a Cracked Head.

Was the head Pressure tested by the shop?
if yes and they said it passed it's most likely only going to show when hot or if they magni flux the head.

with there not being a water in the oil it's not likely a cracked sleeve.

i suggest getting it to temp shut it off and quickly pull the spark plugs and injectors
then top off the coolant and run a pressure test. you should be able to see in each cylinder an see where the coolant is leaking. this way when you pull the head back off you can look and see if there is a crack. ether way your head is coming back off.
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 05:06 PM
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thanks for the reply it reallys help and please bump
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 05:59 PM
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I performed another compression test with the engine COLD. All cylinders show 170psi. Great!
-I performed a cooling system pressure test with the engine COLD. The system was under pressure for 30+ minutes. There was little to none (less than 0.5 psi) of pressure loss.
-I the performed a cooling system pressure test with the engine HOT. Within 15 minutes, pressure dropped 0.3 bar(4.3psi).

Note: Upon cold start, the engine does not begin to produce smoke until after about 5 minutes of idling.

I really want to magni flux the head too as well

Conclusion for todays tests: From the results I got today, if there is a crack that exists somewhere, it is so small that it does not affect anything when the engine is cold(initial start). Upon getting warmer/hotter, the steel/aluminum(where ever the crack may be) is expanding, making the crack larger and allowing coolant to enter the combustion chamber. Next on the list is a block test to verify hydrocarbons in the cooling system. Let me know what you guys think!
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 08:01 AM
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littlerichie34
Your situation does intrigue me and we here at G.E. would like to help to find the cause of your issues at hand.
Send your block here to G.E. and we will do a pressure test for free.
Shipping may be a killer at 80.00 each way.

Sincerely, Bob Woodcock
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 08:31 AM
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Golden eagle I will be in contact with u if i decide to go that way cuz I WOULD in a heart beat buts ur just sooooooooo far from where I m at
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 07:06 AM
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bumppp!
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by littlerichie34
Golden eagle I will be in contact with u if i decide to go that way cuz I WOULD in a heart beat buts ur just sooooooooo far from where I m at
I'd go with GoldenEagle if your head comes back and checks out fine; from what I've seen they do some Grade A+ work.
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 11:06 AM
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I really would like to do thank and thank you GE for offering that to me it just shows how much the care for their hondas and customers BIG thanks, and will be in contact with u for more info GE
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Old Sep 4, 2012 | 06:37 AM
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bump
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Old Sep 4, 2012 | 05:48 PM
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Stock engine?
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 12:20 PM
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yes stock engine hone and resurface deck and head
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Golden Eagle
littlerichie34
Your situation does intrigue me and we here at G.E. would like to help to find the cause of your issues at hand.
Send your block here to G.E. and we will do a pressure test for free.
Shipping may be a killer at 80.00 each way.

Sincerely, Bob Woodcock
Stand up Company
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