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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 06:52 AM
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hey i was looking into gettin Honda blacktrax throttle body, intake manifold, high performance aem fuel rail and rc 550 fuel injectors for my h22...anybody have any thoughts on this set up?
im turboing 8lbs of boost down the road so getting parts ahead of time. i already have aem cam gears and aem pulleys for the motor.

also i saw somebody had bisimoto stage 3 cams for sale and was wondering what else i would need to run those cams, or i should look into a stage 1 or 2 as i am only looking to get around 240-250 whp

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also im a noob...lol
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 01:27 PM
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everything you are looking into buying or have bought are a waste of money when going too turbo. OEM parts are good for around 500... even cams....
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 11:19 AM
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really??

i was thinking about skunk2 im and throttle body, cams, cam gears, and then turbo lol maybe few other things but thats the basics..
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 12:35 PM
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i wouldnt go oem your not really going to gain much with oem aftermarket performance parts are made for a reason. PERFORMANCE oem is just oem.
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 01:52 PM
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When your talking about boosting an H22. Aftermarket intakes and throttle bodies made to add power for N/A builds are a waste of time. The OEM throttle body, intake manifold and cams are more than enough for your goals. New injectors are a must, however the AEM fuel rail is not needed.
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 04:29 PM
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jdm just GTFO you have no idea what you are talking about...
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When your talking about boosting an H22. Aftermarket intakes and throttle bodies made to add power for N/A builds are a waste of time. The OEM throttle body, intake manifold and cams are more than enough for your goals. New injectors are a must, however the AEM fuel rail is not needed.
i know an intake and header wont help bc itll get replaced with a turbo kit, but wouldnt stage 2 cams+cam gears and a bigger throttle body/intake manifold be better than if i kept it stock? like wouldnt i have more power with those parts than with just stock?

i just figured while i have the motor out i should get any upgrades now so it'll save me time and labor cost down the road...
(also just got a competition stage 2 clutch and flywheel)
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If you are going forced induction (turbo) and your goals are under 400whp. Your stock intake, throttle body and cams will do just fine. Top end stuff is easy to bolt on later down the road. Bottom end stuff is what you should be looking into right now. Should look into some low compression Mahle Gold pistons (FRM compatible) and maybe some H-Beam rods w/ARP rod bolts. That way you can add more boost without issues down the road.
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 11:36 AM
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If you are going forced induction (turbo) and your goals are under 400whp. Your stock intake, throttle body and cams will do just fine. Top end stuff is easy to bolt on later down the road. Bottom end stuff is what you should be looking into right now. Should look into some low compression Mahle Gold pistons (FRM compatible) and maybe some H-Beam rods w/ARP rod bolts. That way you can add more boost without issues down the road.
yeah i want 300 tops..avg 250 would be nice. but word ill deff get those then and mess the top end later. anything else ill be needing as far as the bottom end goes?

any suggestions on what turbo kits to look into? i plan on putting the turbo on while swapping the motor in..ive seen a few on ebay, think its the t3t4? or something liek that..i know i need to upgrade a few things that come with a turbo kit
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 11:38 AM
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also anybody know where to get a cluster gauge pod? like the frog eye but where the cluster is? kinda above the steering wheel but below where the frog eye one is?

ive seen a bunch for the integra 94-00 but cant seem to find one for our car...is there another honda that has the same cluster?

^i have another thread going for that ?
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 03:54 PM
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go autowerks kits are someof the best... anything on ebay isnt a good idea
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 04:09 PM
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Default Re: Honda blacktrax intake manifold and throttle body...thoughts?

dude im not saying that you wont get gains. im saying compared to aftermarket
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jdm just GTFO you have no idea what you are talking about...
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 04:37 PM
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OEM is much better quality... op is only looking for 300 so anything aftermarket is just a waste of money.
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Default Re: Honda blacktrax intake manifold and throttle body...thoughts?

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go autowerks kits are someof the best... anything on ebay isnt a good idea
cant seem to find a turbo kit for the h22 by them...

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OEM is much better quality... op is only looking for 300 so anything aftermarket is just a waste of money.
well i just got aem cam gears and aem pulleys so should i just sell them? like does it hurt to install that plus cams? or just leave it stock and turbo it?

Originally Posted by GhostAccord
If you are going forced induction (turbo) and your goals are under 400whp. Your stock intake, throttle body and cams will do just fine. Top end stuff is easy to bolt on later down the road. Bottom end stuff is what you should be looking into right now. Should look into some low compression Mahle Gold pistons (FRM compatible) and maybe some H-Beam rods w/ARP rod bolts. That way you can add more boost without issues down the road.
if i were to get low compression pistons and h-beam rods/arp bolts would i need anything else? or can i just order those parts and be good?

im REALLY new to this so im not sure what parts are needed with other parts to make it run good. also this will be my daily driver so want it to run good and for a long time. i dont want a fully built motor at all.
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You would also require rings and rod bearings. Also depending on the health of your cylinder walls. You could also require a cylinder hone. make sure that the machine shop is knowledgeable and has the proper tools to work with the FRM (fiber reinforced metal) sleeves before you let them do any work.

Well your statement is kind of contradictory. You can't boost a block and hope it will run good and last long as a daily driver without building it properly.
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 01:57 PM
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You would also require rings and rod bearings. Also depending on the health of your cylinder walls. You could also require a cylinder hone. make sure that the machine shop is knowledgeable and has the proper tools to work with the FRM (fiber reinforced metal) sleeves before you let them do any work.

Well your statement is kind of contradictory. You can't boost a block and hope it will run good and last long as a daily driver without building it properly.
i guess that is contradictory lol but i really only want 250 whp. no more than 10lbs of boost at MAX and the motor has around 35,000 miles so im guess the cylinder walls are good...but i was hopeing i could just turbo the motor without have to get new pistons and stuff mainly due to funds, the hasstle and labor charges..
from other threads and even a few posts from this one i was hoping on doing a few mods and getting a turbo kit with a few upgraded parts, a proper tune and hopefully be set...but i could be wayyy wrong on this lol

i guess my main question is, can i put a turbo kit on a h22 with 35,000 miles (i got the set up with the lsd tranny from hmmootors) and be okay long term with around 8lbs of boost and keeping up with all maintanence and also what mods would be needed to help keep this motor "healthy" long term. (ie cams or whatever, trying to stay away from havin to take the whole motor apart and transporting it places and then rebuilding it back it. labor is a bitch) also ive read a lot of people build up a motor, dont liek the way it runs and they have to part it out or decide to just sell it. i want to keep this car for years to come, so i want a car that runs like it should with a little more power if i get on it, thats why i was hoping i can get a good turbo kit or piece together a good turbo kit and run not a lot of boost with a few mods and be good...i was hoping...

and if i cant do this or it wont last, then im not gonna turbo and just get aftermarket parts for the h22 and get whatever power i can out of it without having to rebuild it. rebuilding is pretty much not an option. too much involved and i dont have the time for all the steps and driving around etc
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 02:45 PM
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Tuning is the key to the reliably of boosting a naturally aspirated engine. That and crossign your fingers that the ring lands on the stock pistons hold up. They will hold up better with lower boost pressures and spot on ignition tuning to keep the heat down. Water/meth injection would also help.
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