What's the damage caused by driven with no harmonic balancer

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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 12:56 PM
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Recently I waz driven n I guess tha harmonic balancer came loose n fell off while I waz driving as well as tha timing belt n tha car just dropped rpms n shut off, I got it home n re did tha timing n made sure everything waz tight bt now when I try n start it sounds like a hi pitched humming, what kind of damage could occur when somethin like this happens
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 02:08 PM
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Does the engine crank when you try to start it?
Since your timing belt fell off, you could have smacked valved with pistons.
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 06:11 PM
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"Hi pitched humming." Sounds like the timing belt is too tight.
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 06:32 PM
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Does the engine start and run? If not, make sure the mechanical timing is correct and then compression test the cylinders.
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 06:44 PM
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Did you remember to put the key back in? This the small metal tab that locks the harmonic balancer in place
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 07:17 PM
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Tha timing is good n tha belts not super tight but it seems like its not gettin any compression n it won't start at all
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 09:31 PM
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Do a compression check and double check your timing belt to make sure you have it on right.
If not, sounds like you need to pull the head and inspect the valves for damage.
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 09:43 PM
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you probably didnt install the crank pulley on correctly.

redo it. check the butterfly washers and everything else.

honestly ive never heard of the crank pulley just falling off...
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 10:16 PM
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just buy a new engine pretty much your timing belt skip teeth and your fucked pretty much
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tonylovesjdmEF9
just buy a new engine pretty much your timing belt skip teeth and your fucked pretty much
Actually, it's amazing that, roughly about half the time, no engine damage happens.
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 10:27 PM
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umm you have a point but once your done pulling the head and checking and putting it back its like buying a long block from jap
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 10:37 PM
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I l pull it back apart to figure out what's wrong with it n hopefully everything inside is ok but I checked n it seems like tha timing is perfect, would somethin like that cause any damage to the lower block I am not worried about tha head I gt am extra 1 to change it oh with but I don't wanna pay to get it machined n put it on n I am still in tha same spot
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 11:26 PM
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You have at least some bent valves, maybe some cracked valve guides. It's unlikely that the pistons got damaged.
By loosing the t-belt you had the same effect as if the belt broke. If you're sure your timing is correct and it won't start there is no question why.
You can either swap the engine or pull the head and have a machine shop change all the bent parts and resurface it. Or you can buy another head. If you fix it you're looking at about $350 with repair, new gaskets, etc
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by sd619jef9
I l pull it back apart to figure out what's wrong with it n hopefully everything inside is ok but I checked n it seems like tha timing is perfect, would somethin like that cause any damage to the lower block I am not worried about tha head I gt am extra 1 to change it oh with but I don't wanna pay to get it machined n put it on n I am still in tha same spot
Again, compression test the cylinders.
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 08:34 AM
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compression test ftw
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 05:33 PM
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Spelling and punctuation FTW. Use a torque wrench next time.
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 10:24 PM
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Spelling and punctuation FTW. Use a torque wrench next time.
hahaha . yes always torque everything or atleast the important stuff. im just saying instead of wasting time and money buy a long block and swap it in about the same price and lower mileage
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 10:33 AM
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Yea I know stupid mistake on my part n tha only reason I am tryin to figure out what could have happened is cuz I did a fresh rebuild on it n it had only like 1000 miles bu now I am payin for not payin more attention to it
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Tyson
you probably didnt install the crank pulley on correctly.

redo it. check the butterfly washers and everything else.

honestly ive never heard of the crank pulley just falling off...
Mine has. That's what you get for installing a motor while slightly intoxicated. Lol. Sheared the "key" as well!
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