Engine Swaps headaches
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Engine Swaps headaches
How reliable are your swaps? I'm considering selling the SiR and picking up an EK, maybe drop something in later. Not sure what yet. But I hate having the hassle of car problems. I just want to drive it and forget about it. I dont want any headaches. IE if I get someone good to install it am I gonna run into any ghey problems? I know every car is different, but for most of yall is your swap working ok? how long you been running it???
Just want some helpful tips,
Thanks! H\T!
Just want some helpful tips,
Thanks! H\T!
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Re: Engine Swaps headaches (VSM SiR)
If they are done properly the first time they are as reliable as the cars they are made from. It's all Honda OEM after all and both the Civic and the Integra have reputations for being virtually bullet proof.
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Re: Engine Swaps headaches (VSM SiR)
Just get your wiring right the first time. The physical 'swap' action is the easy part.
of course that's contingent upon the original condition of the donor motor.
The only problem I've run into is not being fast enough
92 eh-2- B18c
of course that's contingent upon the original condition of the donor motor.
The only problem I've run into is not being fast enough
92 eh-2- B18c
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Re: Engine Swaps headaches (importoverdomestic)
you guys with the b18c USDM motors, did you guys pass smog on the first try??
i want to get a integ ls and get b18c1 swap in a year.
i want to get a integ ls and get b18c1 swap in a year.
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Re: Engine Swaps headaches (B_Cruz)
if ur worried about passing smog and have money..get a dealer to get u ur motor and do the install...better..alot of the ref s are trade school instructors and do the inspections at their shops..here, id recommend them to use ur car as a project..u supply all the materials and motor
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Re: Engine Swaps headaches (VSM SiR)
My b18c1 is very reliable. I used an OB1 in my 94 CX and it has not given me any issues at all. The vehicle has also been CARB'd here in California. Ultimately, it depends on the quality of the engine/transmission that you buy that will dictate whether or not you will have problems in the future.
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Re: Engine Swaps headaches (stevecockrill)
A better idea would be to just get the GSR in the first place, IMO. Saves a lot of hassles.
Steve
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and if you think swapping cost more, insuarnce will build up
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Re: Engine Swaps headaches (B_Cruz)
my dad said something about if the eng ID number and car vin dont match, i wont pass smog. is this true? and if i have a ls/rs and do a b18c1 swap, what do i smog it as? ls or gsr?
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[Modified by importoverdomestic, 11:29 PM 10/16/2002]
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Re: Engine Swaps headaches (importoverdomestic)
About the insurance.....I priced del Sols (Si vs VTEC.....SOHC VTEC vs DOHC VTEC) and the Si was $1 per 6 months cheaper than the VTEC. I don't know if its different for your case, but I was surprised.
If you tell your insurance company about the swap, they'll likely charge you as a GSR, or if you don't tell them and your car gets jacked, you're out $3500 or so......
Steve
If you tell your insurance company about the swap, they'll likely charge you as a GSR, or if you don't tell them and your car gets jacked, you're out $3500 or so......
Steve
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Re: Engine Swaps headaches (importoverdomestic)
my dad said something about if the eng ID number and car vin dont match, i wont pass smog. is this true? and if i have a ls/rs and do a b18c1 swap, what do i smog it as? ls or gsr?
1. The engine has to be the same year or newer
2. All smog systems must be in use (catalytic convertor, vacuum lines, canister, etc)
3. Be professional with the referee and he/she will treat you the same.
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Re: Engine Swaps headaches (Mario_D)
my dad said something about if the eng ID number and car vin dont match, i wont pass smog. is this true? and if i have a ls/rs and do a b18c1 swap, what do i smog it as? ls or gsr?
This is incorrect. If you provide the smog referee with legitimate documention about the purchase of the swap (VIN numbers, price, etc) they can run the information to verify if the engine has been stolen. The main requirements for reffing your car is as follows:
1. The engine has to be the same year or newer
2. All smog systems must be in use (catalytic convertor, vacuum lines, canister, etc)
3. Be professional with the referee and he/she will treat you the same.
mario-
[Modified by Mario_D, 1:52 AM 10/17/2002]
[Modified by Mario_D, 1:53 AM 10/17/2002]
This is incorrect. If you provide the smog referee with legitimate documention about the purchase of the swap (VIN numbers, price, etc) they can run the information to verify if the engine has been stolen. The main requirements for reffing your car is as follows:
1. The engine has to be the same year or newer
2. All smog systems must be in use (catalytic convertor, vacuum lines, canister, etc)
3. Be professional with the referee and he/she will treat you the same.
mario-
[Modified by Mario_D, 1:52 AM 10/17/2002]
[Modified by Mario_D, 1:53 AM 10/17/2002]
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Re: Engine Swaps headaches (importoverdomestic)
you guys with the b18c USDM motors, did you guys pass smog on the first try??
i want to get a integ ls and get b18c1 swap in a year.
i want to get a integ ls and get b18c1 swap in a year.
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Re: Engine Swaps headaches (stevecockrill)
About the insurance.....I priced del Sols (Si vs VTEC.....SOHC VTEC vs DOHC VTEC) and the Si was $1 per 6 months cheaper than the VTEC. I don't know if its different for your case, but I was surprised.
If you tell your insurance company about the swap, they'll likely charge you as a GSR, or if you don't tell them and your car gets jacked, you're out $3500 or so......
Steve
If you tell your insurance company about the swap, they'll likely charge you as a GSR, or if you don't tell them and your car gets jacked, you're out $3500 or so......
Steve
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Re: Engine Swaps headaches (Mario_D)
my dad said something about if the eng ID number and car vin dont match, i wont pass smog. is this true? and if i have a ls/rs and do a b18c1 swap, what do i smog it as? ls or gsr?
This is incorrect. If you provide the smog referee with legitimate documention about the purchase of the swap (VIN numbers, price, etc) they can run the information to verify if the engine has been stolen. The main requirements for reffing your car is as follows:
1. The engine has to be the same year or newer
2. All smog systems must be in use (catalytic convertor, vacuum lines, canister, etc)
3. Be professional with the referee and he/she will treat you the same.
mario-
[Modified by Mario_D, 1:52 AM 10/17/2002]
[Modified by Mario_D, 1:53 AM 10/17/2002]
This is incorrect. If you provide the smog referee with legitimate documention about the purchase of the swap (VIN numbers, price, etc) they can run the information to verify if the engine has been stolen. The main requirements for reffing your car is as follows:
1. The engine has to be the same year or newer
2. All smog systems must be in use (catalytic convertor, vacuum lines, canister, etc)
3. Be professional with the referee and he/she will treat you the same.
mario-
[Modified by Mario_D, 1:52 AM 10/17/2002]
[Modified by Mario_D, 1:53 AM 10/17/2002]
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Re: Engine Swaps headaches (importoverdomestic)
you inform them where u purchased it and show them the Reciept which I pray you would have the VIN# written on the reciept and then they bust the SHOP for selling stolen parts.. you are a consumer.. they are a buisness they have a responsibility to sell only legitimate Parts
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Re: Engine Swaps headaches (importoverdomestic)
that's why u go to the REF .. they will give u a sticker that verifies the engine as a B18C1 in the LS vechile.. as long as u can pass there thru Visual inspection and Smog test