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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 02:30 PM
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So I just picked up a h22a1 ef sedan. I love the car but the axles are binding up in corners or in dips in the road. Does anyone have any experience on this swap, can you tell me your axle set up? It has a h22 transmission by the way. Id like to lower the car but the header is already only about a inch and a half off the ground and its at stock ride height. anyone know of a legit way to raise the motor up some? also the cable to hydro conversion is mounted in front of the radiator, is this normal? Or should it be relocated somewhere else? It is kinda bitchy to get in and out of reverse, and not like you got to rock the car to get it to go in. but you have to pull hard to get it to come back, almost like it is binding up a little. Ive searched for awhile trying to find information, but i have came up empty handed. someone told me to try this forum. any information is helpful. thanks in advance
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 04:00 PM
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you're going to need to get the correct axles and shift linkages... can't tell you which ones tho
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 05:38 PM
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Raxels is where I got my axles. Im lowered on F&F type 2's and have no binding issues. Also I went with ESP's mounts, my hood closes fine and the header is about 3" off the ground lowered. IDK who made yours if its that low, you sure you arent lowered as it is? If so you probably need to raise your car up some to stop the binding. As for shifting, check and see how your cables are ran.

Take pics of everything and post it! Good luck!
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 07:53 PM
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 08:47 PM
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Probably axles too short I heard driveshaft shop axles are better...also probably car too low
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 01:45 AM
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Raxels is where I got my axles. Im lowered on F&F type 2's and have no binding issues. Also I went with ESP's mounts, my hood closes fine and the header is about 3" off the ground lowered. IDK who made yours if its that low, you sure you arent lowered as it is? If so you probably need to raise your car up some to stop the binding. As for shifting, check and see how your cables are ran.

Take pics of everything and post it! Good luck!
Yeah man, Im sure its not lowered lol. its on factory struts and spring. Maybe the weight of the h is too much on the front, but honestly the wheel gap in the front and back is about the same. the front is a little lower but not much. How much did you end up paying for your axles? and Ill check my header clearance out tomorrow if its not raining. I just remember when I went and looked at the car it looked really close to the ground. And those mounts actually let you close your hood? my hood is bent all to **** and the motor still smacks the hood lol.

If I can Ill try to snap some pics tomorrow, any pics in particular you need to see?

Im really in need of a 5 speed tranny for a h or a f, anyone around the ky or tn area that has one or can rebuild a tranny, let me know. I got some stuff I could trade or I can buy it. My 2nd gear syncros are shot and 5th is getting that way.
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 09:37 AM
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Yeah man, Im sure its not lowered lol. its on factory struts and spring. Maybe the weight of the h is too much on the front, but honestly the wheel gap in the front and back is about the same. the front is a little lower but not much. How much did you end up paying for your axles? and Ill check my header clearance out tomorrow if its not raining. I just remember when I went and looked at the car it looked really close to the ground. And those mounts actually let you close your hood? my hood is bent all to **** and the motor still smacks the hood lol.

If I can Ill try to snap some pics tomorrow, any pics in particular you need to see?

Im really in need of a 5 speed tranny for a h or a f, anyone around the ky or tn area that has one or can rebuild a tranny, let me know. I got some stuff I could trade or I can buy it. My 2nd gear syncros are shot and 5th is getting that way.
Honestly I regret ordering the stiffer springs that Weksos recommended, I forget what rate but my car doesnt squat AT ALL! Are you sure the axles are binding and not just clicking? Sometimes people make there own and the shaft is longer causing them to bind when turning.
I think I paid 280 shipped or 320.. Call up Raxels and ask for Marty, thats who I dealt with.
Like I said the mounts worked great BUT I waited 16 weeks to get them.

As far as pics, take some of the header clearance, hood clearance, axles and so on.. What knuckles does it have? If i remember correctly si hf knuckles need to have the ring on the back were the axle goes in take out.


BTW I have a 5speed accord trans M2J4 that I have never used. A buddy gave it to me when I bought my swap and I thought it was a H trans. Let me know if your interested... I will ship
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 10:04 AM
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Honestly I regret ordering the stiffer springs that Weksos recommended, I forget what rate but my car doesnt squat AT ALL! Are you sure the axles are binding and not just clicking? Sometimes people make there own and the shaft is longer causing them to bind when turning.
I think I paid 280 shipped or 320.. Call up Raxels and ask for Marty, thats who I dealt with.
Like I said the mounts worked great BUT I waited 16 weeks to get them.

As far as pics, take some of the header clearance, hood clearance, axles and so on.. What knuckles does it have? If i remember correctly si hf knuckles need to have the ring on the back were the axle goes in take out.


BTW I have a 5speed accord trans M2J4 that I have never used. A buddy gave it to me when I bought my swap and I thought it was a H trans. Let me know if your interested... I will ship
Oh yeah they are binding for sure man, you can feel the vibration in the front end and its only when I take a turn too sharp or hit a dip in the road. In a straight line it has no problems, just straight hauls ***, but to take a corner I have to drop down to speed limit, sometimes less than speed limit.

Its a lx sedan, but has da integra disk brakes all around. the guy made the axles fit. Ill text him and find out the exact set up and let you know.

Why did it take 16 weeks to get your mounts?

Ill try and get out today and snap some pics, Its not raining yet lol.

and what would your price be on the tranny shipped?
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 10:12 AM
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Mine is a Lx as well, he must of made his own either that or he used hasport axles instead of raxels. IDK... It took 16 weeks because there were several "Problems" I call BS but it was only supposed to take 8 maximum. I know everyone says its custom made it takes time but once you build a jig for all of the mounts production shouldnt take double of what you claim on your website.

Make me a offer on the trans, and let me know how youd like me to ship it.... UPS?
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 03:09 PM
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Mine is a Lx as well, he must of made his own either that or he used hasport axles instead of raxels. IDK... It took 16 weeks because there were several "Problems" I call BS but it was only supposed to take 8 maximum. I know everyone says its custom made it takes time but once you build a jig for all of the mounts production shouldnt take double of what you claim on your website.

Make me a offer on the trans, and let me know how youd like me to ship it.... UPS?
He used a b series drivers axle, accord half shaft and a ZC integra passenger axle with a accord inner cup.

And here are some pics, just let me know what else you need to see. I think this is about everything. I didnt have a jack so I couldnt get the shifter cables from the bottom side lol.

Drivers axle


Passenger axle


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Cable to hydro conversion


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Header clearance (turns out I have about 3 inches of clearance as well lol)


Hood clearance (Its bent with hood spacers and still hits the pcv valve)
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 03:53 PM
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Your axles look to be pretty straight, you should try to jack it up and put it in gear while turning the wheel to see if it binds and then go from there.

The clutch cable setup is crazy, ive never seen that before lol... With the esp kit I have it comes with the cable to hydro conversion which puts the cable right at the trans. No need for hydro. The pedal is a little tight but I dont know what clutch the guy put on the motor I got.

Your mounts look like ebay ones. Which would explain your height issues, the only way I see to correct that is to put washers under the mounting points on the sides and rewelding the rear mount bracket higher. If not the hood spacer trick is the only way of fixing your problem.

Those shifter cables look like ****... I see theres no seperation from the elements. I made a plate that goes under the shifter assembly and above the exhaust.
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 04:35 PM
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Btw get a throttle cable from a 90-93 integra its shorter and looks better than 100ft of coiled dpfi cable.
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 05:00 PM
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http://www.explicitspeedperformance.net/

that site should have good info
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 05:10 PM
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Their site has some good info but I found quite a few things missing regarding the swap. That being said the mounts, and traction bar are great. The cable to hydro conversion however is as loose as I can make it and it was hell getting the pushrod into the pivot fork.
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 05:31 PM
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Your axles look to be pretty straight, you should try to jack it up and put it in gear while turning the wheel to see if it binds and then go from there.

The clutch cable setup is crazy, ive never seen that before lol... With the esp kit I have it comes with the cable to hydro conversion which puts the cable right at the trans. No need for hydro. The pedal is a little tight but I dont know what clutch the guy put on the motor I got.

Your mounts look like ebay ones. Which would explain your height issues, the only way I see to correct that is to put washers under the mounting points on the sides and rewelding the rear mount bracket higher. If not the hood spacer trick is the only way of fixing your problem.

Those shifter cables look like ****... I see theres no seperation from the elements. I made a plate that goes under the shifter assembly and above the exhaust.
Alright man, Ill try to get it up on some jack stands asap and see where its binding. I just got to wait till we get my buddies b16 back together and get it back in his si.

and yeah the set up he did is weird as ****. But it dont bind up or anything, and it feels like a stock clutch lol

I agree on the shifter cables. The guy told me when he first put it together he couldnt get it into 5th and reverse. he said after he adjusted it, it straightened up some. But its still a bitch to get in and out of reverse. Im gonna have to adjust it and try to fix it before I put a different tranny in it.
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 05:31 PM
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Their site has some good info but I found quite a few things missing regarding the swap. That being said the mounts, and traction bar are great. The cable to hydro conversion however is as loose as I can make it and it was hell getting the pushrod into the pivot fork.
Yeah, I really want their traction bar setup
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 06:44 PM
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The shifting problem could be due to him adjusting the cables, that or the clutch assembly isnt fully engaging the clutch.

You want that trans.
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 07:55 PM
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Prolly a bad pressure plate would also cause it to be hard to get in and out of gears, as to shifter cables it looks lyk them shifter cables aren't locked in place like should be that may also cause your going in and out of gears problem.
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 11:52 PM
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The shifting problem could be due to him adjusting the cables, that or the clutch assembly isnt fully engaging the clutch.

You want that trans.
Well its only reverse its hard to get in and out, all other gears are smooth, well other than 2nd, and the syncros are shot.

and Im broke at the moment. In between jobs. It would be a bit before I can come up with some money.


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Prolly a bad pressure plate would also cause it to be hard to get in and out of gears, as to shifter cables it looks lyk them shifter cables aren't locked in place like should be that may also cause your going in and out of gears problem.
What do you mean the shifter cables are not locked into place?

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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 11:46 AM
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They have a bracket or are supposed to sit in between the metal so they engage right
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 12:05 PM
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If you look closely it seems as though he cut the mounting points where the cable end attaches to the lever. That would change the throw of the shifter imo. Ill post mine



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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 12:07 PM
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Ok maybe not lol after looking at the pics they seem the same, id try adjusting the cables. Also, try shifting into reverse from neutral and see if it goes in completely if it doesnt see which cable puts it into reverse and adjust accordingly. If that doesnt solve the problem then it might be internal.
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 03:49 PM
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Ok maybe not lol after looking at the pics they seem the same, id try adjusting the cables. Also, try shifting into reverse from neutral and see if it goes in completely if it doesnt see which cable puts it into reverse and adjust accordingly. If that doesnt solve the problem then it might be internal.
I got to wait till we get my buddies 00si out of my gurage, but I do plan on adjusting the cables. hopefully that helps it out. I need to come up with some money and order a nice set of axles lol.
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