ok, first off, both engines I have are LEGAL and not stolen, i have all paperwork with them!!

I'm in the process of building an 84mm GSR block built for boost, I picked up a spare GSR block to start with. I want to swap this engine into my 96 GSR when I'm done but I want to retain the stock vin plate that matches the vin number of my car. Basically what I want to do is remove the vin plate from my engine and have it transferd over to the spare GSR block for when it's done and ready to go in the car.

Many will probably say "why not build your current engine" well, because I just rebuilt that, bored to 82mm with jdm itr pistons and such.

Looking close they look like small torx sockets but I don't know if theyre threaded or riveted, can anyone tell me how I can get these things off without destroying them? I can provide pics of plates and title/paperwork if nobody is willing to help because they think my stuff is "stolen"

Thanks!

 

They are threaded. Have fun getting them off

 

Remember kids, fraud is fun!

And pics of titles and paperwork? Gotta be kidding...

 

yes, because everyone that asks a question regarding a vin plate transfer is stealing or commiting fraud. Everything I have is legal. I'd much rather have matching vins on every piece of my car than have a mis-matched vin because I built a different block.

People are **** about giving out information about stuff regarding vins, which is why I said what I did, believe what you want.

I suppose you want to give me **** about swapping vin plates on my dash because I went from tan to black interior too, right? go troll on someone else.

I stripped the heads but managed to remove both of the plates with vise-grips. Not to happy about chewing the bolts up but it happens.

 

It is illegal to remove a vin number from anything it was put on, even if some states such as ohio you have to add the new serial number or vin of motor to the car's title. why is it that big of a deal to different vin on the block? what are you going do if you punch a hole in the block switch the vin to another block?

 

SO you have two or three motors?

Exactly it is fraud!!!! By remove a vin and putting it on another block or anything for that matter (dash) you are saying it is the original block therefore it is fraud and illegal. It is enough to have your car seized in most states. You have admitted to a felony on a public forum and no one is going to assist in your criminal activity and risk the trouble for them. Pretty stupid if you ask me but hey I don't understand 80% of the crap newbs post....

Good luck

 

quoted for future reference

 

I have two GSR engines, I stated this twice.


You guys should go to body shops where they swap dashes from accidents ALL THE TIME and take off and replace the vin number plates, how is this ANY different from what I asked? oh wait, It's NOT.

I'm not moving MY vin to ANOTHER car.

I love how a simple question is taken out of context by all you guys hahaha. No wonder people stop asking questions on this site, first, because they haven't been here for 4+ years or have 2000 posts they get called noobs, or people butt in with their random opinions not even pertaining to the actual question and steer the thread in a direction it doesn't need to go.

 

it's not a huge deal, i'm a stickler for attention to detail I guess. All I asked was if it was possible. I didn't ask for a legal debate. These guys should go bust on everyone who posts a video of them going over the speed limit too. :\

 

It is possible to do, but whats the point, its like people putting the cp-r stickers on rota track r's it looks the same but its just not the same, if you are worried about keeping everything original, just pull your original motor out, store it very well and when your ready for your car to be original put it back in.

 

I just rebuilt the original motor because it was burning incredible amounts of oil, its in the car now and I'm driving it. My friend is currently doing a k20a2 swap and offered me his 98 gsr block which was recently honed for 400$ along with a list of other stuff for b series stuff so I bought it.. so that's why i'm building this one and not the original one.

maybe swapping the plates isn't the best idea but it was still a question, people don't need to jump down others throats over a question.

 

People get a little touchy when you talk about removing VINs since if you haven't noticed thief is the biggest plague in the honda world.

 

I had a friend of mine give me **** for removing the vin from my dash to swap with my new dash. Im keeping the same ****ing vin on a new dash get real.

The part of the block with the engine code, i shaved that off aswell and engraved my name lol. **** thieves.

 

understandable, which is why I said I have proof everything of mine is legal... people just like to jump on your **** and call you out on on it, and of course, call you a noob..


I actually didn't personally swap the dash, a fellow H-T member ( ::EK-4:: ) did.

now, taking my vin numbers and putting them on another vehicle is dumb, but that's not what I asked.

 

Pretty sure no matter how you look at it, it's illegal to switch VINs, check with your local DMV.

My question is if it's all legal why would you risk breaking the law and possible seizure of your car just to have matching VINs?

Only possible reason I can think of is is to scam a potential buyer.

Also it is not illegal to swap the VIN on the dash as long as it's the VIN is for the car, in fact up here it is required if you swap the dash, and more and more cars the dash VIN is not on the dash, it is on the sub frame with a "notch" on the dash so it can be seen..

As mentioned, theft in our community is rampant, so if you did not foresee people "dumping" on you about switching VINs, your naive, all I see is people pointing out that it is illegal, and can see no legal/reasonable reason for doing it, and as I mentioned the only reason I can see for doing it would be to "fool" a potential buyer into thinking the car is all original with matching VINs.

If it sounds fishy, people will ask why, so don't get your panties in a knot when the do. 94

 

Yeah^^^^^what he said!!!

 

I'm not planning on selling the car at all, it's a long term project and just a fool around car.

Thanks for a mature response.

I do have a question, if its legal to swap the vin on a dash, why would there be a problem doing it on an engine block? same idea, no?

Not trying to scam anyone, just making the car "Look" original. I am a stickler for attention to detail and a non-matching vin number would drive me crazy. There were ALOT of shortcuts taken on this car by the previous owner and I'm addressing and fixing them all. I didn't mean to cause such a commotion with just a simple question.

 

A dash is a dash, an engine is an engine, swapping the dash is no diff. then swapping the seats, the VIN on the dash is not for the dash it is for the car, the VIN on the engine is for the engine to matcg the car, like you want to do. 94

 

Big problem is if you get pulled over and the cop takes the code on the engine plaque and sees that it does not match the motor vin you swapped. You have just broken a few laws and a federal one. Not worth the trouble. Better prey that you dont get pulled over and they pop your hood. Your going to forfeit that motor.

 

I live in new york. The possibility of the cops popping your hood is 0%. Not to mention I don't speed, or drive unconsiderately on the street.

I don't understand what you mean by the engine plaque? the engine I'd be swapping plates on is the same engine. B18C1. Both GSR motors. It's not like I'm taking a LS plaque and putting it on a GSR motor. It's a straight block swap.

 

The thing you aren't understanding is that by swapping the vin plaque that is on the engine now to another engine would imply that it is the original engine that the car came with. Doing this for personal reasons doesn't make sense because if you have the legal paperwork then keep that in the car with you. It's not the same thing at all just because it's the same type of motor. How would you feel if someone told you it was the original low mileage motor and the odometer is correct then you come to find out the engine has low compression and extremely high mileage. That is the only reason I can see someone doing this, because they want to keep their low mileage engine and sell a car with a swapped engine without anyone being suspicious.

 

I have personally seen vehicles get impounded due to "non-matching" engine serial numbers. If you tamper with the serial number your car will automatically get impounded. Remember, every VIN has a matching serial number. Check out the window sticker on any new Honda and you will see this. (The ESN or Engine Serial Number is located under your B18C1 stamp)

You better pray that you don't get pulled over in NYC, Yonkers or Rockland. You must live in western NY or really far upstate where Auto Crime Police doesn't exist.

Good luck in your endeavors.

 

I do.

I want a matching vin numbers car. Weather or not the serial number matches, the vin will. Like I said the motor that is in the car is the original motor that has just been fully rebuilt. I'm not tearing apart a perfectly running motor to sleeve it when I have a spare GSR block that I just sent away to be sleeved. I am OCD about numbers and throughly checked them before I bought the car to make sure it was all original.

I just want the vin on the engine that goes with the car. I'm not trying to "screw someone over" because I'm not selling the car. Period.

 

as mentioned above, tampering with the VIN is done usually for theft or fraudulently re-titling a wrecked or stolen car.
if the VIN has been tampered with, you will not have any proof that the engine was NOT stolen.
how can you prove which VIN was on the block after you removed it?
any noticeable tampering will be questioned, and rightfully so.

 

Understandable.

I wish I wasn't so OCD about such a ridiculous and small issue. That is the only reason I want to swap the plates in the first place.

It's not like it's even in view nor will anyone look at it because the header covers it mostly.. it would just bother the hell out of me.