Hey guys just joined the forum and I must say, im glad i made the change over to Honda from Nissan.
I bought a 1990 Honda CR-X EF and first thing is first, I was amazed at the gas milage of this little thing even with a/c at full blast.
I live in AZ where everyday tempuratures are just around 115 degrees, normal everyday tempurature. (Summer)
But besides that, I am in a process of turning this into my project. Story starts like this...

Bought the car on June 26 2012 for $1400.00 (214,000 Miles )

Heres the car right after I bought it. Body is straight, 0 rust (Arizona), Interior is clean, New tires, Healthy engine, smooth transmission etc etc.



For people who dont know how to primer a car.






Sounds nasty (Not in a good way.)






Anyone know if this damm engine is sellable? D15B6. Not sure if anyone would want this damm thing. But im not going to need it. Will come with all a/c parts, mounts, radiator, fans, headers, exhaust, intake, I mean everything. But lets save that for another day.

Goals:
225-250WHP DD

This is just a quick list:

B18B1 with stock Transmission
Stage 3 Clutchmasters 6 puck sprung
New OEM Flywheel
Ebay Mounts (Very nice quality)
Log style turbo manifold
Garret t25 rebuilt
FMIC
450cc Injectors
Walbro 190LPH
P28 ECU Chipped (Still need to find one)
Tuning with Crome
etc etc....

This will be my very first Honda build, but not my first turbo build. So lets see how this turns out. If anyone has any advice along the way please do share, this is a learn as I go build. Have spent a total of 97 hours reading, watching videos, and what not, of other peoples builds.

 

Welcome to Honda-Tech and Hondas. I am also from Arizona, Mesa area. Nice start, inside looks pretty clean, needs some paint though. Stay away from AZHT forums Honda-Tech is where it is at. Much better people and info on here.
I would go with a Garrett 50 Trim T3/T4 .63 AR instead of the T25. I know you are a Nissan guy and it was all about the T25 turbos with Nissans but this is a B series Honda not a KA24 or SR20 or even a RB25 for that mater. B series motors like a slightly larger turbo and for your goal a 50 trim would fit nicely. Go with a 255lph fuel pump they cost the same and a 255 Walbro is the standard for a boosted Honda.
Be careful with Ebay mounts I got these awhile back http://www.ebay.com/itm/96-00-CIVIC-...vxp=mtr&_uhb=1 and the bracket for the mount by the timing belt did not line up correctly. Fit on these was crap. I sent them back for a refund. For tuning go to SRD/XactDyno and talk to Tim. I have him do all my tuning, great tuner. I also recommend going with a Hondata S300, if money is a concern the a S100. If you dont have a OBD1 ECU then a S100, ECU, and tuning will cost you about $460.
IF you can try to trade or sell the LS trans for a cable B16 trans not only is the gearing shorter and makes for a funner drive but it will make the swap a bit simpler.

 

damn stealin all the input here^

 

Literally.

Thanks, after seraching around I knew Honda tech was the place to be at lol. I will also look into trying to find a bigger turbo, some of these parts were some leftover and brand new so I thought WTH.

Sorry to hear about those mounts, hopefully my faith isnt the same. Heres the link to the ones that I bought.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170779916604...84.m1497.l2649

Thats exactly the tuner that I was going to go talk to. I was just thinking crome since it looks to have the same capabilities as the s100. Please correct me if im wrong, I saw a thread here somewhere where it shows what you able to do with different programs (ex. hondata, crome, neptune etc.) But I should really head down to XACT and speak with tim see what he thinks would be the best route. I hear a lot of great things about tim.

I also did some research on tranny's, they say that the b16 is fun with short gears but it isnt reccomended with boost, as you cant keep it in boost as long as the ls tranny's (longer gears). Thats just what I read, But i will definetley do some more digging.

Thanks for all the advice though.

(Sorry, still need to learn how to multi-quote a message)

 

Im both a Honda and a Nissan guy (i have 4 sr20det and a built v30dett in my garage for my s13s lol)

While the t25 will spool quickly, b series motors have heads that flow very very well... With a t25 expect lots of low and mid range with non existent top end. A t28 would be better but not by much.

And for your goals a t04e 50 trim is overkill and a little on the laggy side. You can run a 60 trim straight t3 and make your 250hp while having decent response...

As far as selling the motor.. A 1.5l non vtec sohc motor is basically a boat anchor... But you could always post it up here or craigslist... Just don't expect more than gas or beer money for it.

 

Wow sounds like some serious power in that garage lol. I had a red coupe s13, silvia front end,
s15 sr20det. It was my fun drift car.

Yea i was thinking a t28, still a good step up over the t25.
Haha wow selling this engine wont help my build at all then lol.
Maybe buy me my oil and filter.

 

I mean you could slap a good price on it if you document its condition... Mileage, compression and leak down numbers

A t28 is nothing more than a 60 trim t3 compressor wheel attached to a t25 turbine side. While you have the t3 compressor side the problem is the small t25 turbine wheel is a major choke point. You really need a t3 turbine side to avoid excessive exhaust manifold backpressure... Which can choke a motor and if high enough can cause exhaust gas reversion back into the cylinders.

I would seriously look into a 60 trim t3 with a .63 a/r turbine housing. They came off of manual so turbo mustangs and thunderbirds and can be had in good shape off of ebay for cheap. I would just run a log manifold or even a decent cast one.. If touch want good flow and future upgrade ability you could look into a mini ram for a little more. You'll get very good turbo response, just a tad larger than a t28 on an Sr while still having nice top end power

Yea almost 2000hp when done. The vg30dett will.make 700rwhp converted to single turbo doesn't my "fast" street car.. The SR going in my FormulaD car will make somewhere between 600-700 with a sequential dog box tremec transmission. The other daily Sr will make about 350-400.. That's excluding my turbo Honda motors lol

 

No a 50 trim is a nice match up. If you want something to spool up fast and be ok in the top end up not great the T3 60 trim Super 60 will be good. The 50 trim will be at full boost by around 3000-3500rpms and make power to redline.
The S100 will run the motor much better. I have seen nearly exact setups side by side and the one with Hondata ran so much better and did not have the little hiccups that Crome did, both tuned by Tim at XactDyno.
PM me I may have some turbo stuff you may want.

 

Actually the 50 trim on the GS-R would not be overkill. it would be perfect. moreso than any T28 could, but it would because of the same reasons (better flowing head). There's no readon to push the little turbo to a higher range when it won't help.

As for the "longer gearing" arguement. This is a horrible myth that for whatever reason is still existant when it shouldn't be. Keep your B16 or GS-R tramsission, unmodified. you'll be much happier that way.

 

So I got my block back from 5 Star Engine here in Glendale. Perfect job everytime.


Bored .20 over, Align Honed, and Washed.





Also got the head back. Was checked for warpage or cracks for free. Great guy there, really knows his stuff.




Exhaust ports.


Intake Ports.


I was really happy with there work again. Time to start putting it all together.

 

New Postons with NPR Piston Rings. Rods were also checked for signs of stress or cracks.


Had to check piston ring gap on ice chest while my friend brought me his engine stand. Thanks Alex, you saved my back.


So after checking the ring gaps here is what I got after checking each one 3 times.

Pistons 1
Top Ring: .015
Second Ring: .018

Piston 2
Top Ring: .016
Second Ring: .018

Piston 3
Top Ring: .016
Second Ring: .018

Piston 4
Top Ring: .015
Second Ring: .018

Seems wierd that the second ring was the same acrros the board. But i checked my work over and over again. Ive read that the rings should be gapped wider if your going to be running boost...but how wide?
I know a guy on here where his first rings were .014 across the board and .019-.020 for the second rings and his car is running fine. Any input would be appreciated. I didnt find solid number for the oil ring, anyone know the gaps for these?

Clevite standard size main bearings going in.




Yes I did plasti-gauge main bearing before going in. Did it twice. Checks out


Crank micro-polished.


After putting main caps on I got distracted and got dark after. This shall continue tomarrow, I hope. Tomarrow is my B-DAY!

 

looks like you're doing it right per power goals

 

Looking good so far. PM me if you want I have a ported turbo manifold with WG and OBD2 B18B1 intake manifold that has also been ported. I am looking to part with them if you are interested.
Mac I was suggestion that the OP sells the LS Trans and getting a B16 cable trans for his CRX Ls swap. Oh and he is building a B18B1 motor with a P75 head it lloks like not a GSR. However the T3T4 50 trim is still a perfect turbo for his build and goals.

 

Thanks man. Let me get back to you about that turbo manifold. If you still have it. Funds are running a little low but will let you know. I was also thinking bout selling this car and buying a shell (Bad investment). Anyways, so today I did a little more putting back together.



Putting on ARP Rod Bolts.


All 4 pistons in. Hopefully rings will seal


New OEM main bolts.


ARP head studs going on


Head studs and OEM Honda head gasket.


Finish off the day by painting the block gloss black.


More updates tomarrow.

 

painting it black makes it a bitch to find leaks if you ever have any, just fyi

 

^ you really should have the rods re-sized after installing arp rod bolts.