So this is the specific turbo that i have been using on my current and last setup without any problems at all for about 2 years and made 300whp and 250 torque at 16 psi with a stock redline of 6800k (b18b1). full boost for me hits at 5000 rpm at 16 psi. i have taken the turbo to 22 but i just didnt feel like it gained that much more so i guess the advertised 5-20psi is somewhat accurate.

http://www.cxracing.com/mm5/merchant...gory_Code=T3T4

my goal is to make 350 to 400 whp boosting tops 20psi or whatever 91 octane allows me to. current pistons are wiseco 8:5.1 and 1.8l forged sleeves, head is stock minus skunk2 intake manifold and regrinded cams, 2.5" ic piping, and 3"exhuast, 750cc rc injectors, 4 bar hondata, turbo smart ultragate 38mm.

since this company has been good to me for the past two years and is also pretty local im deciding to go with their turbos even if their made by Republic of China.

please no stupid comments like o "get something better" or "stop being a cheap ***". im in college, gotta pay for tuition, and saving up for a euro vacation.

PLease no mentioning of Ebay, i already know, just keep the discussion scientific

Im almost done with my street car, and only need a few more mods and then ill be done hopfuly. Im currently trying to get a legit Brand name manifold which i know wont be cheap which realistically speaking should give me at least 20whp at same boost levels, and a new turbo. With my new manifold i should be at 320(hopefully) plus 4 more psi, which should be at least 20 more whp putting me at 340whp with my current turbo. last on my list is a throttle body and just becuase i have seen so many 600hp cars with 60mm throttle bodies like neons too lol.

So these r the turbos that im looking at

the first one is almost just like the one im using right now but slightly different
http://www.cxracing.com/mm5/merchant...gory_Code=T3T4

the differences i noticed was that the turbine had 11 fins instead of having 12 like my current one does. its ceramic ball bearing on compresor side only. and the fins are of slight different specs. would this turbo make same power but spool quicker or will it make more power theoretically and wat effect does the 11 fins have? i notice the fancier turbos have 10 to 11 fins on exhuast side.

the second one
http://www.cxracing.com/mm5/merchant...gory_Code=T3T4

on the description of this one it says that its effective from 5-35psi which is already a plus for me since i felt the one i have was losing efficiency just after 20. can you turbo experts read the wheel sizes(i think they switched the inducer and exducer numbers) and tell me if this one will outflow and provide more power at same boost levels as the first turbo and the one i have.

finally the third one
http://www.cxracing.com/mm5/merchant...ry_Code=TRBT35

im really interested in this turbo just because itll give me room to grow and i do have vtec head in my closet but i want to keep it pure b18b so i can go back to stock and pass the ref or smog which i have before . i know that a real gt3571(non ball bearing) is a big turbo and might be laggy on a b18b but how will this hybrid ball bearing turbo be on my car. i read the description and it appears to be slightly smaller than a real gt35 so im guessing it should spool sooner(again theoretically). i also noticed that the compressor inlet has 7 fins(n 7 diffuser) and the real one has 6. so will this turbo be good for my b18b and will i be able to spool this sucker to 20psi


Again people i know that garret turbos are better and if i could i would have a full race kit with a comp turbo but i dont hvae the cash or funds

any help will be really appreciated

 

I doubt there is any scientific fact in those descriptions. They copy a design from a real turbo and make things up to make it seem legit.

No ones gonna be able to tell you what these things will really do.

 

That rather sums it up..

 

i guess you guys didnt know what i meant by scientific but to be more specific ill just give you an example:

instead of saying "their copies" which doesnt mean anything scientific.

(x,y,z are variables)
I'm looking for answers like " the inducer wheel on turbo A is smaller than inducer on turbo B which is Xmm vs turbo As Ymm yada yada yada" or " the second turbo should be quicker(notice i said theoretically) due to the ratio of fins and it having 7 or vice versa" im sure you get the point.

i think we all already know their copies. the info is given and i have measured the fins myself when i took the turbo apart to clock it differently and it is what is given on the website

why do people appear to get heated, if i could afford a fancy turbo i would, and speed shouldnt be limited to rich people only, isnt that why we all have hondas in the first place

 

yea but then again no one can really tell you what a real turbo could do either way cuz every engine is different with different applications. im just asking for an idea. or just answer my two basic questions, can i get more power with the second turbo i posted with same psi as the first, and will the third turbo i posted be able to spool to 20 psi
thanks

 

If you insist on going that route get one with a journal bearing. I have my doubts about anything ball bearing made in china.

As for your other questions I have no idea.

 

the turbos are somewhat custom with a Japan made bearing (its in the pics), they showed me in person when i went there and they said their really good quality.

 

u think illbe able to spool the gt35 hybrid r turbo up to 20 psi with my ls by 7000rpm?

 

You can get a brand new precision entry level for $600. Better quality then cx and lots of ppl will actually be able to tell you how they perform. They have options up to 600 crank hp.

 

search around the forced induction classifieds...im sure you can find someone parting out a new precision or garret turbo for a decent price......

 

Don't have a clue. Sorry m8.

 

cxracing makes decent turbos. 2 of my friends that compete in FormulaD are sponsored by them, one had a cx racing turbo on his 1.5jz and he never had issues but I can say for what comparable garrett model it was supposed to be the power output wasn't close.... they can't copy the wheels exactly so the model number they call them is just a rough comparison.

will it work, yes.
will it make power, yes.
will it make as much power as the name brand turbo its based off of? no.
will it spool like a true ball bearing turbo? no, since its only single ball bearing.

 

since the gt35 clone turbo is a little bigger than mine i would assume it would spool a bit slower but since its half ball bearing then im guessing it will be hopfully exactly the same but with more airflow of course.

i wouldnt mind spending 600 bucks on a precision turbo but to be honest i have been to the dyno spots around socal and i have seen many precision turbos in action and to be honest i wasnt that impressed.
the only differences i noticed between a precision turbo and a cx racing turbo of the same or near specs was that the precision turbo would make like 10 to 20 more hp.which in my book is not worth the extra 400bucks.

right now im saving up for a JDL ram horn manifold which i think is 2nd to best compared to full race. the other brands dont teardrop the wastegate and i know that ram horns do creep just a tad bit(usualy not even a problem but still). and this is mainly why im also in a budget cuz this manifold is definatly not going to be cheap

im just trying to put the money in the most important spots, and in the past 3 years with this ebay turbo i have had so much fun beating mustangs, camaros, srt-8s, evos, and even beat a 2012 gtr the other day by like haf a car and still dont smoke!!!! i think its how u take car of your turbo and not so much the brand cuz im sure we have all seen garret turbos fail in weeks too especially when the dumbasses dont know how to cool it right or have some kink in the oil lines


my goal is also 350whp to 400whp with pump gas and im sure that is easily attainable with a cxracing turbo.

cxracing is not your average ebay turbo and their stuff is tested, computerized balanced and made of same materials. the only difference is that they cant copy the exact bolts, exact fins, or have same nipples that fancier turbos have coming out of compressor.

if i was going for 600 to 800 horsepower then im sure ill definatly need a garret or comp turbo by then

 

Like i said in the LST thread, you didn't beat a 2012 gtr that was trying with 300 whp lol

 

^^^what he said

 

lol its people like you that make me laugh, its a shame i didnt get any video of it but still lol, your telling meee when you were clearly no where in sight physically hahahaha. i got no reason to lie. i made 300hp reving to 6700rpm at 15.5 psi and that night i boosted 18 to 20 pounds and revved to 7400rpm and it was also like 65 degrees vs it being 92 degrees and driving in 2 hours of traffic to upland when i dynoed my car that day. your a fool if you think your some kind of turbo expert and think a turbo car doesnt lose horsepower after drving for hours in way hotter conditions. and on top of that in case you didnt know, my integra weighs 2300(weight reduction) and the gtr weighs like a boat. whats so hard to believe?!?! its called having a useful street powerband.
and since when do i hate on you for being a rich dude and spending a **** load of money on a honda or anything similar dude. chill out bro, were all suppose to be friends.

i sure hate it when people hate or bash on people just cuz we cant afford a brand name turbo or parts. we as less fortunate people have to save up for months or years even and work so hard for anything expensive. people swear we dont got bills, girlfriend, college, kids, or lives. the whole point of even modifying a honda is to be fast and economical, and also to see the faces of people in corvettes and mustangs as we pass them in our shitboxes. if i was rich i wouldnt even be wasting my time here and would probably have a used c6 vette with so much **** that a honda would never even get near. and i know you guys support this statement too. i mean who wants to be losing traction all their lives when u can do wheelies lol. maybe one day ill have my dream car but for now im all HONDA ftw. so in conclusion go take your bashing somewhere else cuz we for sure dont let people like you stop us from being fast. people that bash and swear only by brand parts cuz their mommy helped them out are so annoying at meets n they think their the **** but in the end, from what i noticed their usually just some honda nerd geek who probably doesnt get pusy lol

 

check out cheapturbo.com they have awesome prices and will be able to help you with your needs!

 

Whaaaaaaaa?!?!?!?!? Ken is trying to come back under the old name?... WOWW!!!! That's Pretty Ballsy!!! Good luck to everybody.




http://cheapturbo.com/store/ We Are Power... Interesting

 

wtf

 

What happened to keeping it scientific? Hypocrite.

 

OP, No one is bashing you, pointing fingers at you or judging you... BELIEVE THAT!

Listen to these guys please... They have knowledge and EXPERIENCE! How do you get that? Its not cheap! You try to save money, you cheap out and you break parts and THEN buy good parts. Once you've been through that, you understand the extra value of QUALITY parts. I learned the hard way as well. These guys are actually trying to stare you in the right direction and thats commendable!

Like you said in your statement... "If you were rich". Going fast cost money period! whether you spend it on a corvette or a honda. My advise would be to save your money and buy quality parts when you can afford to. We all have a love for racing, but without discipline, its a bad habit that could make life hard. Heed young brotha, heed...

 

Hahahahahah why would you buy a USED C6 if you were rich????

Relax bro its cool you like cheap turbos stop promoting them though... I mean me myself hate paying for exspensive parts but id rather buy a used garrett than an ebay turbo any day outta the week... Now that's real.

 

c6 looks sicker in my opinion and all you guys are hilarious. just answer the dam question and keep it as scientific as possible. if only i met u guys in person. im sure you will understand everything im saying. you guys just jealous that soone with ebay turbo can make good power and i just came today from seeing a gsr makin 610whp on ebay turbo and e85

 

this fackin guy....
and at the prices z6 vettes are going for get a z06... I love ours, 600rwhp completely unstock, we play tag with r35s at atlanta motorsports park.

we arent arguing that an ebay turbo can make power, we are arguing how long that power will last.

and if you cant take criticism you need to get off of the internet

 

Mr. Lowry speaketh the truf