Lately i been hearing allot about Bisimoto engineering and there products as well, I have always had my motors tuned at churches but i got a new setup about ready to be tuned and i was thinking about taking it down to Bisimoto. I read a few threads about how people enjoyed there experience there at Bisimoto.
I have had countless setups and i just always have trusted churches, they do good tuning and i feel like they are one of the best in socal, But on my last dynos there i diddnt like the service they gave me, If you need a small tool they act like they dont need to help you, and on the last dyno recently i needed some spark plug gromits and they wouldnt lone me the ones that were on the vc they had siting in some dust. The tunner seemed fustrated that i baught a map sensor from ebay he was not familiar with come to find out its just a omni 4 bar when i told him it was a 3 bar. I had fellow friends of people having there car tunned help me! When i left my motor did not feel to good, it idled very rough and i just wassnt satisfied to be honest, they know me very well and to treat me like that was a slap in the face! all the countless hours of dyno tuning i gave them and the hundreds of dollars i put in there acount from my buisness was all nothing! i have a stack of dyno sheets thick as a book all from dynos from churches lol, i come from a buiesness back round and i know when a customer brings you lots of buisness you treat them good and its just not what i got on the last two dyno sessions there.

So what do you do right? look for another tunner, so im thinking Bisimoto. Id like to hear some feadback from anyone who has been to both tunners and how they like each tunner/service.

C.A street sleaper build thread:
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...556604&page=11

 

nice setup man. I thought you were running NA for a sec and was so confused when you were talking about boost.

 

I have personally gone through a few tuners in Socal and by far have had the best experience with Bisi both with the tune and his insight he had shared to improve my setups. So far Bisi has tuned two of my past projects and a few of my buddies setups who also agree they would not go anywhere else.

P.S. I still got that AEM EMS if you want it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFLOeD4-e8o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD1fSFfyGpY

 

nice! yea i should have full payment for that ems by fri!

 

thanks yea! it will fool most who dont know whats going on lol! whats even funny just when you think you know whats going on and see the fmi and hear the bov swoosh you think ok its turbo lol nope supercharger spool ftw!!

 

If i lived out that way and had this option i would choose Church! This is my personal opinion i have had no contact with either shop. Church for its name in tuning and what he built his shop for.

 

see this is the cross roads! church is well known in tuning hondas! but Bisi has aftermarket parts he actually desighns and pattends so that shows the dedication to the work he performs! i havent seen a aftermarket part made by churches! just engine builds that seem endless there.. also he has show cars ect.. that makes me confident knowing he does the whole nine yards! and on top will give you insight and tips from his experience to help make our builds better! to be honest shawn church couldnt even admit that the power loss was do to a step between the throtle body and manifold! i overlooked that portion and didnt port match the manifold which i do on all my n.a motors but this boosted setup i didnt look into it. im sure Bisi would of pointed that out.

 

Everyone is going to have their own opinion...
Call both of the tuners your self, talk to them both choose which ever one seems to answer your questions & provides you with the best customer service etc.

 

Well i know how they work and i know how they treated me the last time lol! and on top of everything i have been there countless times! i just wanna know if bisi's tuning is up to par! and i want feadback from experience not opinions thanks.

 

There ok, bisi is alright church is um not the best they kinda suck. Want a good Honda tuner that has built strong cars that last, talk to Ericks Racing they do great tunes they tune to what ur motor can handle and what is best for your setup plus he has great advice I would give him a call I have been to many shops and Ericks racing has been the best.

 

thanks forgot about Erick. Still leaning toward Bisi.

 

Bisi just does safe tune,Ericks will squeze as much power as he can out of ur motor without going over.

 

Kindly give us a call: *888-922-6686. We will be more than happy to assist you with your performance goals!

 

Thanks! will do! waiting on a AEM ems

 

is this true? i doubt it..

 

If your in san diego, give me a try. Ive been to bisi and ive been to churches myself. Both can tune well, but its all about what will this tuner do over the other. Whether its customer service or just plain quality work.

Give me a call 619-402-5380 if you have any questions, or if you want to come take a tour of our shop. Thanks.

Since your in san diego, there is no need to drive 2hrs for a tune anymore. However, the choice is yours to make.

 

It always makes me cringe when I hear about someone who had a bad business experience, especially when it happens with a business that you have frequented and done repeat business with.

Anyway, I would recommend Bisimoto for tuning any day. I became a customer about 4 years ago and haven't gone anywhere else ever since.

I have no personal experience with Church's, so I'm not in a position to comment on them. I refuse to simply restate what I have read or heard (good or bad) about a place in a situation like this, so I can/will only comment on who I have personal experience with, and that is Bisimoto. Give him a shot, I believe you'll be happy that you did.

 

Sorry man i only trust the best! seeing your from Santee no offence but a shop called the dyno shop blew my motor so screw that shop lol! that damn place blew my motor on purpose years ago. after that i told my self id drive 5 hours just for a good tuner.

thanks for your insight! i will deff give bisi a try.

 

I never said i worked for the dyno shop did I? I work at dyno tech, i'm a certified professional tuner sir, but like i said its up to you. Search Dardantuning or ask people that ive dealt with in sd and see for yourself. I back up all my tunes 100%, ive tuned over 100 motors now from fully built ls1 to 600cc cbr moyor on aem. How can you make such statement like that? "seeing that your from santee?" anyways good luck to you sir.

 

Sorry thats why i said no offence! i didnt say that was your shop i just meant i dont think id ever wanna trust a santee tuner, thats just my opinion after I took advise from a shop called group 5 auto sports in s.d and they told me to go this place called the dyno shop! http://www.thedynoshop.com/
long story short they leaned me out and blew my motor made me pay and lied to me that it was just carbon in the head and it wll clear up on the way home, a low mile healthy gsr motor with full n.a bolt ons. haha bastards chiped a few valves in my head! some people told me i shouldnt of had gone there cause theres allot of racisism there which i didnt know which sucks cause im a afghan american! So screw The Dyno shop in santee! im sure your a great guy and tunner 99V-unit, but i have over $9,000 invested in this setup and i aint gonna let just anyone tune this thing

 

Well i see what your saying, its hard to trust people to tune your car(especially when send that much money), but just because im from "santee" doesn't mean i can't be trusted buddy. Although you have a nice setup, your setup isn't anything complicated. The Ls1 corvette motor i tuned had $30+ invested into the motor alone, ive tuned all types of high end bmws,supras,mr2s, first ca18det 240sx on aem ems, nsx, turbo s2000s, 800hp 1.6 litter b16 turbo. I'm not just some punk off the street, i'm a professional tuner and i work at a republe shop. I'm aem certified, ive tuned with some of the best tuners in the world, I've been taught by the best in the world. I'm also an engineer from San diego state, i'm easter european too, not racist lol. I guarantee all my tunes, no tune leaves the shop unless its 100% how it should be.

Since your afghani, do you know Muhammad Ali Ghanizad?

Ask him about Dardantuning, he will let you know.

here is a link of our facebook page and my own personal facebook page so you can see my work.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dynot...s/235986214479

https://www.facebook.com/DardansTuning

 

well whether its a $10,000 or $30,000 setep a corvette or integra its still money and someones time invested, im not saying its gonna take the best tuner to do the job i just want the best of the best. but your tempting since your so close but yet i have a few other local tuners who want to tune my setup as well but i just dont feel like i want them to tune it.

 

Take it to bubba @ do it dyno

 

i can personally vouch for darden tuning... we had my friends b20v itb skunk2 pro2 cam dynod there, and sure it read low numbers, but it is a mustang dyno, and after he was done me and him raced, and he smoked the **** out of my car... and i have a h22 eg that hasnt been beat by a b series yet until i raced my friends eg.... not trying to talk up darden but im dead serious my friends hatch was bookin ...

darden does good work, and wont stop until he is happy with the results he let us work on the motor because something wasnt setup right, and didnt charge us any extra ..

thumbs up in my book

before you go to any shop, i dont trust anyone tuning my cars, i tune my own cars, and i have never had any problems, i have tuned multiple cars with all different setups, high compression, low compression boosted 20+ psi but i am not certified, and if i wasnt going to do my own tuning, i would let darden tune it just because ive seen his work first hand ive been to churches, ive been to do it dyno ya i would pick church over do it dyno any day just because my friends motor blew the day we left do it dyno but it is what it is

its your car and your motor, i wouldnt go anywhere else but church bisi or darden this is just my experience with his shop

 

thanks for your input, 99v-unit has been helpful in tryin to get me tuned, offered to help me on the cop kit install before the tune, thanks thats was nice of you, and i just might take that offer lol. But im still running around tryin to finish this setup.