what kinda internals would you recommend?
Ok so I have finally decided to go ahead and build my f23 while it is out of the car, but having a lil trouble seeing as how around here its hard to find performance parts. I am just curious what kind of pistons and rods you guys run so I don't just buy some random no name parts...anyways I will not be running a turbo. All motor build that will hold up. Thanks for the help guys
What is your budget?
You could spend up to $1350 on rods and pistons alone. $800 for a set of light weight F23 H-beam rods and $550 for a set of high compression, light weight, forged F23 pistons.
Or you could look into doing an OEM parts build. Using an 87.25mm bored F23 block, stock F23 crank, K20 rods ($400) & H22 type S pistons ($310). In theory it would give you a true 2.3L (97mm x 87.25mm) with an 11.5:1 CR.
You could spend up to $1350 on rods and pistons alone. $800 for a set of light weight F23 H-beam rods and $550 for a set of high compression, light weight, forged F23 pistons.
Or you could look into doing an OEM parts build. Using an 87.25mm bored F23 block, stock F23 crank, K20 rods ($400) & H22 type S pistons ($310). In theory it would give you a true 2.3L (97mm x 87.25mm) with an 11.5:1 CR.
I'm not really looking to spend a **** load of money and I've already had the block cleaned by the machine shop and was hoping to not have it bored. I do like the idea of using k20 rods and h22 pistons on a "budget" style build but this is a very slow build none the less cause i am on an extremely slim budget. Its not something thats gonna be done soon. Thanks for the info, great idea!
please excuse my retardedness.....its an f22......idk what i was thinkin my bad dude..but! if i was to bore it to 87.25 then could i still use the F22 crank, h22 pistons, and k20 rods? or will it have to be a different rod cause the stroke is smaller? or am i better off just puttin it back together n findin an H or a F23? thanks sorry again
The K20 rods won't work on the F22 crank. You will have to bore to 86mm and use F22/H23 rods and K20 pistons. The bore is smaller as well as the stoke is shorter.
There are a couple hybrid F22 builds floating around here. I'm sure one of the boys will chime in as to what they are using. Or you can search for the threads.... IIRC there were one or two in the Accord forum and another couple in the Hybrid forum.
Could run custom 29mm compression height pistons on a set of H22 rods in the F22. Cost some money though.
There are a couple hybrid F22 builds floating around here. I'm sure one of the boys will chime in as to what they are using. Or you can search for the threads.... IIRC there were one or two in the Accord forum and another couple in the Hybrid forum.Could run custom 29mm compression height pistons on a set of H22 rods in the F22. Cost some money though.
Alright man I'll look around some..its hard to find an accord build thread on here. I guess everyone is building secret huge horsepower beasts and dont wanna share their setups lol But thanks for the info man appreciate it greatly
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-accord-1990-2002-2/f22b2-itb-setup-1938405/
http://ghostaccord.blogspot.ca/p/all-motor.html
Hopefully some of the other guys will chime in as well.
http://ghostaccord.blogspot.ca/p/all-motor.html
Hopefully some of the other guys will chime in as well.
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I don't know a lot about the F series engines but..I think they have the longest stroke its like 95mm per each crank throw - and - 85mm bore - 141.5mm length rod...dunno if journal size is the same but i'd like to see if de-stroke a bit (like H2.2A1-is 90.7mm stroke) & use a 3.0 rod- 153mm length..if same journal diameter..I. dunno? & only bore if need be..with my v-8's short stroke+long rod = nice rpm engine dunno about wrist pin diameter either..would be cool to tinker around though..really have to pay attention to rod ratio when swapping parts around..can be catastrophic if too high #. Stay @ 1.48 to 1.58 max for good ratio...my .02 cents...good luck
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