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1997 EX Will not start, IVE TRIED EVERYTHING

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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 06:52 PM
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Hi every one! Last month I bought a 97 civic EX sedan last month for $300, it had a blown engine. Privious owner ran it out of oil. Last week I picked up a y8 that belongs in the car. I have spark, (tired two different dizzys) I have fuel i can check that its priming and I put a screw driver to the injectors and can hear them open and close. I checked the timing and all the marks are facing strait up. So I have Fuel, spark, and correct timing and the car still does not start. When I turn on the ignitioin the wiper blades twitch though????

could it be a bad ECU or could the wiper blade twitch be half the problem?
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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 07:39 PM
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Are the plug wires installed in the correct firing order on the distributor cap?

Have you compression tested the cylinders?

Any CEL codes?
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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 07:51 PM
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Yes firing order is correct. No CEL codes. I have not compression tested yet I will do that tomorrow. I checked all fuses 3 times and they are all fine. I can hear the main relay click and the pump prime. Thank you RonJ
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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 07:55 PM
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Does the CEL work or are you using a code reader?

Here's a visual for the firing order:

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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 08:00 PM
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So I double checked the timing and it was spot on! Double checked the firing order, that was spot on. So I went and bought me a compression tester and I got 0's accross the board. I figured that my gauge was broken so I tested it on my EM1 and it works just fine. What would cause the engine to blow 0's?
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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 08:18 PM
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So I double checked the timing and it was spot on! Double checked the firing order, that was spot on. So I went and bought me a compression tester and I got 0's accross the board. I figured that my gauge was broken so I tested it on my EM1 and it works just fine. What would cause the engine to blow 0's?
1. Lack of oil causing the rings to be overworked. 2. Old (worn) and weak rings. 3. Crack or opening in the head - but that doesn't necessarily mean water in the oil or oil in the water. 4. Cracked cylinder 5. Burned, warped or cracked valve(s). 6. Burned or cracked piston. 7. Cylinder worn or out of round. 8. Blown or leaky head gasket. 9. Sticky valve(s). 10. Broken or worn valve spring(s). 11. Bent/worn pushrod(s) 12. Worn camshaft, or a broken lobe on the cam. 13. Worn or bent rocker arm(s). 14. Collapsed lifter(s).
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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 08:25 PM
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Do cylinder leak down tests to see where compression is lost.

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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 07:59 PM
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Tested today! blows right out the valves, apparently my engine I got from the junk yard had a **** ton of bent valves. putting a new head on tomorrow.
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 08:00 PM
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But I still cant answer why the wiper blades twitch when I turn on the ingition
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 08:01 PM
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Try cleaning the contacts in the wiper switch.
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 02:21 AM
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no dont replace the head. return the engine and get another one. usually they are good about their 30 day warrantys as long as you dont clean off the stock number on the engine, "that way they know its theirs"


but normally they run and test their engines before selling... hmm kinda shady here
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 09:31 AM
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no dont replace the head. return the engine and get another one. usually they are good about their 30 day warrantys as long as you dont clean off the stock number on the engine, "that way they know its theirs"


but normally they run and test their engines before selling... hmm kinda shady here
Agree! Take that ish back and get another one
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by hondaguy777
Agree! Take that ish back and get another one
Ya no joke!
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