1991 EF with an LS Motor is running really rich

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Old Jun 1, 2012 | 09:38 PM
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Default 1991 EF with an LS Motor is running really rich

The past couple days my car has been running really rich. I've also noticed that when black smoke and little blots of gas shooting out. A half tank of gas burns after like 50 miles. I checked tire pressure and they are fine. I need help ASAP! Burning a hole in my pocket.
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Old Jun 1, 2012 | 10:40 PM
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Tire pressure? haha. I would look around at the fuel pressure regulator. Tap it a few times it might be stuck. Find a tuner that can hook up a wideband O2 and check to see if you are actually running rich. Might also be a stuck injector.
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Old Jun 1, 2012 | 10:59 PM
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lol im a noob -__- where is the fuel pressure regulator? I remember this issue started happening when my mom's bf took out my battery to put in her car for a bit. I have read up some where that taking out the battery resets the ecu and then when it is put back on it retrainss itself on how you drive. I have a A/F ratio guage that tells me im runing really rich. I run rich on all gears except 5th on a high rpm.
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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 12:28 AM
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Is your car obd1? Chipped ecu? Need more info about the car.
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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 01:36 AM
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im not sure, i think its obd1 yeah. I was told by previous owner that it was chipped .it never was like this when i first bought it. Well it was running rich but wasnt killing this much gas.
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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 05:28 AM
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I doubt it was the battery. The fuel pressure regulator is on the fuel rail.

Fuel delivery via gas tank, intank fuel pump, fuel line, fuel filter, fuel rail (feeds injectors), fuel pressure regulator and back to the gas tank.

The fuel pressure regulator has a black vacuum line running to the intake manifold. Take the back of a screw driver and tap it a few times. Might help.
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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 06:50 AM
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A four deep favorite sold terr cone ahead also ms prariedodging

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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 11:19 AM
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So I've heard.....
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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 02:15 PM
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A four deep favorite sold terr cone ahead also ms prariedodging
i dont get what your trying to say.

but alright ill try that and let you guys know if it fixes it.
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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 04:30 PM
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i did what you told me and it didnt really make much of a difference.
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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 06:51 PM
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actually it did, the gas needle keeps going up and down though. For example, when im accelerating for a bit it goes down then at a stop light it comes back up.
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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 09:12 PM
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When the car is at idle remove the vacuum line from the regulator. If idle goes to sh it then thats not the problem. Look for the map sensor also that might give problems but will give you a check engine light. Btw is your check engine light on?
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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 09:13 PM
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Im still thinking it is the regulator. Try and find one on craigshitlist.
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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 11:54 PM
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yeah my check engine light is on. It wasnt on the other day, my mom's bf(ASE Certified just lazy as hell) took out something behind the intake manifold. it was like a green plated gasket. Idk what it is called, sorry im so noobbb. Ok ill check it out. I tweaked out the idle for it to suck less air and that kinda helped it too. but still killin gas
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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 11:57 PM
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i have also noticed my oil been getting dark very quick.
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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 11:58 PM
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there is a crack on the bottom of my radiator, do you think that would effect it at all? it is a very tiny tiny crack.
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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 12:13 AM
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The car also likes to sputtter out alot when slightly tapping on the gas on 5th gear. Its like a jerking feeling.
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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 12:44 AM
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Check your timing, make sure your tps is in spec and find out what your cel is on for.
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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 01:11 AM
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Last post says check your cel. He's right (if cel light is on). It's supposed to run you pig rich when the cel light comes on so you can get home - etc.

Tire pressure shouldn't have an impact like you're saying... Just pump your tires to ~30psi.

You obviously have another problem. I'd figure out why your cel is on and figure out what engine/ecu your running... all that jazz
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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 05:02 AM
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Like i said the check engine light was on after my mom's bf took out one of the peices behind the intake manifold. It was that peice where the plug connects to a blast plastic peice. In between the black plastic peice and the intake manifold there was a green thing. It fell off and he didnt put it back on. Therefore the CEL turned on.

Teamredline: are you talking about the advance timing or whateveR? how do i check or adjjust it to run less rich, thanks.
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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 05:42 AM
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You need to get the trouble code for the CEL. People that are trying to help have asked you to do this a few times, and they can't help without the code.

Ignore all other issues until you have that code, since that is most likely what's making you run that rich. So, concentrate on clearing that code, anything else can be checked out later.

It always baffles me when someone says "HELP", but won't do the things on their end that need to be done to actually solve the issue.
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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 07:15 AM
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Op. On the passenger side floor (where the feet rest) pull down the carpet to expose the engine computer cover. It is a metal plate held in place with 10mm bolts. It also has a hole where you will see an LED that emits a series of flashes. You must count these flashes there will be a pause between each set of flashes.

Example ...... ........ ...... .................. etc. Get back to us asap. Take pics of said removed piece. So your Moms BF is an *** huh? Owe, you said Ase sorry..
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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Spug
You need to get the trouble code for the CEL. People that are trying to help have asked you to do this a few times, and they can't help without the code.

Ignore all other issues until you have that code, since that is most likely what's making you run that rich. So, concentrate on clearing that code, anything else can be checked out later.

It always baffles me when someone says "HELP", but won't do the things on their end that need to be done to actually solve the issue.
i just told you why the CEL is on -___- so idk why your saying all that. But when i go visit my mom again i well ask her bf to check for the CEL Code for you guys.
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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 07:26 AM
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Your a hard headed little sht. Were trying to help. Read the code its really easy.
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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 07:27 AM
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Op. On the passenger side floor (where the feet rest) pull down the carpet to expose the engine computer cover. It is a metal plate held in place with 10mm bolts. It also has a hole where you will see an LED that emits a series of flashes. You must count these flashes there will be a pause between each set of flashes.

Example ...... ........ ...... .................. etc. Get back to us asap. Take pics of said removed piece. So your Moms BF is an *** huh? Owe, you said Ase sorry..
okk i well count them and get back to you on that and the removed peice. LOL! good one :]
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