Honda Accord (1990 - 2002) Includes 1997 - 1999 Acura CL

H23a/F22a IM options

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 5, 2012 | 08:00 AM
  #1  
Blaze45's Avatar
Thread Starter
Brrraaaap!
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,950
Likes: 3
From: AZ
Default H23a/F22a IM options

What aftermarket intake manifolds are available that you have seen work? I am sure that I will hear a bunch negative comments on the OBX units, but I am looking for something else that will work without the $500 price tag of the GE unit.

Thanks,

Blaze
Reply
Old May 6, 2012 | 09:23 PM
  #2  
nus_dogg's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 3,728
Likes: 8
From: St. Paul, MN
Default Re: H23a/F22a IM options

You're not talking about the OEM upgrade right? You wanna know what companies makes them for the F22Ax?
Reply
Old May 7, 2012 | 07:16 AM
  #3  
Blaze45's Avatar
Thread Starter
Brrraaaap!
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,950
Likes: 3
From: AZ
Default Re: H23a/F22a IM options

I would prefer to stick with OEM units but the problem is even the OEM ones are too tall for the hood to close on my EG with the F22 that is in it.

Blaze
Reply
Old May 7, 2012 | 07:38 AM
  #4  
H22_CB7_JAY's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
Default Re: H23a/F22a IM options

Your eg has an F22 in it? WTF
Reply
Old May 7, 2012 | 09:19 AM
  #5  
TouringAccord's Avatar
H-T Order of Merit
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 9,172
Likes: 7
From: somewhere in MI
Default Re: H23a/F22a IM options

Originally Posted by H22_CB7_JAY
Your eg has an F22 in it? WTF
no different than someone putting in a H22. I almost did it myself but my plans changed. Someone showing the F series some love

Blaze45,
Speaking of the H22, my brother-in-law had an H22 in his 92-95 hatch and I don't recall him ever talking about clearance issues between the hood and IM. Are the two setups that different? Does your valve cover clear the hood without issue? I only ask because I don't recall the IM sitting above the valve cover by much if at all. Is it possible the motor may be tilted forward making the IM sit higher than it should? Maybe using a different rear mount bracket on the motor would allow the back of the motor to swing down just a bit to allow the IM to clear the hood?
Reply
Old May 7, 2012 | 10:02 AM
  #6  
Arthas's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,495
Likes: 3
From: Pomona, CA
Default Re: H23a/F22a IM options

H22 IM fits F22?
Reply
Old May 7, 2012 | 07:40 PM
  #7  
Blaze45's Avatar
Thread Starter
Brrraaaap!
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,950
Likes: 3
From: AZ
Default Re: H23a/F22a IM options

Originally Posted by H22_CB7_JAY
Your eg has an F22 in it? WTF
Yes.

The H22a IM does not fit the F22a. The H23a stuff is interchangeable.

The engine doesn't really seem tilted, but compared to how it sits in an accord it is titled forward. I don't know if it clears the valve cover yet because the IM won't let it close. The IM just sits so tall...



Also the H22 IM isn't as tall as the F22a one is. H23 IM isn't much different in terms of height.
Reply
Old May 7, 2012 | 08:02 PM
  #8  
19Accord97's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,314
Likes: 2
Default Re: H23a/F22a IM options

How much is it sticking out? Couldnt you just do the hood prop thing that was a fad awhile ago if you don't need much clearance?
Reply
Old May 7, 2012 | 10:08 PM
  #9  
Arthas's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,495
Likes: 3
From: Pomona, CA
Default Re: H23a/F22a IM options

Two questions


1. Why would you want an F22?
2. What did you do about all the vacuum lines?
Reply
Old May 8, 2012 | 02:01 AM
  #10  
GhostAccord's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 11,399
Likes: 69
From: East Coast 506, Canada
Default Re: H23a/F22a IM options

What's wrong with the F22? People have shown that you can get good power out of them. In both naturally aspirated and forced induction setups.

OP, have you looked into using an F22A6 intake and removing the IAB plate (secondary throttles) there was another member looking to do this same thing. They opted to have the upper and lower intake matting surfaces machined to lower the total height. that is an option as well.
Reply
Old May 8, 2012 | 03:45 AM
  #11  
TouringAccord's Avatar
H-T Order of Merit
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 9,172
Likes: 7
From: somewhere in MI
Default Re: H23a/F22a IM options

Originally Posted by GhostAccord
OP, have you looked into using an F22A6 intake and removing the IAB plate (secondary throttles) there was another member looking to do this same thing. They opted to have the upper and lower intake matting surfaces machined to lower the total height. that is an option as well.
GA, I believe you are referring to the same user...
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-accord-1990-2002-2/differnet-f22a-intake-manifold-options-3048363/
Reply
Old May 8, 2012 | 03:48 AM
  #12  
TouringAccord's Avatar
H-T Order of Merit
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 9,172
Likes: 7
From: somewhere in MI
Default Re: H23a/F22a IM options

Originally Posted by Blaze45
The engine doesn't really seem tilted, but compared to how it sits in an accord it is titled forward. I don't know if it clears the valve cover yet because the IM won't let it close. The IM just sits so tall...
hmm... have you thought about using a different rear mount bracket on the motor? Like maybe one from a H22? Maybe that would allow the motor to sit back and lower the intake manifold to a point it would clear. What rear mount bracket and mounts are you using? I assume you are using a H22 into EG mount kit correct?

Also, like GA mentioned, are you able to gain enough clearance by removing the IAB plate from the IM?
Reply
Old May 8, 2012 | 04:38 AM
  #13  
Andryzzle's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 986
Likes: 0
From: Southern MD
Default Re: H23a/F22a IM options

Is the h22 manifold shorter?

Is there enough clearance for this?

http://www.swapshopracing.com/contents/en-us/p5502.html
Reply
Old May 8, 2012 | 05:08 AM
  #14  
ashb82's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,239
Likes: 2
From: sndy r, nc, usa
Default Re: H23a/F22a IM options

i have seen a dyno of a OBX manifold on cb7tuner, but the guy said it was modified and never told what he modified. i think i am going to see what one will do



Reply
Old May 8, 2012 | 05:53 AM
  #15  
v4lu3s's Avatar
RTFM
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 7,267
Likes: 4
From: Conroe, TX
Default Re: H23a/F22a IM options

what mounts do you have? I had an h22a with both HCP and Hasport mounts and was able to fit the stock manifold, euro-r (which sits lower) and the skunk2 under the hood (it had firewall clearance issues).
Reply
Old May 8, 2012 | 06:19 AM
  #16  
Blaze45's Avatar
Thread Starter
Brrraaaap!
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,950
Likes: 3
From: AZ
Default Re: H23a/F22a IM options

Originally Posted by 19Accord97
How much is it sticking out? Couldnt you just do the hood prop thing that was a fad awhile ago if you don't need much clearance?
The washers/hood trick... I can't find bolts that are long enough for how much space I need. And bought some REALLY long bolts! haha


Originally Posted by Arthas
Two questions


1. Why would you want an F22?
2. What did you do about all the vacuum lines?
1.The factory F22a head flows more air then any B series or H series. Less then $100 for a long block from a bone yard. $100 for a D series tranny... Im cheap!
2. Capped em.


Originally Posted by GhostAccord
What's wrong with the F22? People have shown that you can get good power out of them. In both naturally aspirated and forced induction setups.

OP, have you looked into using an F22A6 intake and removing the IAB plate (secondary throttles) there was another member looking to do this same thing. They opted to have the upper and lower intake matting surfaces machined to lower the total height. that is an option as well.
Originally Posted by TouringAccord
GA, I believe you are referring to the same user...
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3048363

Yes this was me... If I was going to have the IM milled down, I thought why not look and see what other IM's are available cause I figure unless its the GE manifold it is going to cost about the same.

Originally Posted by TouringAccord
hmm... have you thought about using a different rear mount bracket on the motor? Like maybe one from a H22? Maybe that would allow the motor to sit back and lower the intake manifold to a point it would clear. What rear mount bracket and mounts are you using? I assume you are using a H22 into EG mount kit correct?

I am using a D series tranny, so I am using a D series rear tranny mount on conglomeration with Avid mounts and a custom drivers side mount.

Also, like GA mentioned, are you able to gain enough clearance by removing the IAB plate from the IM?
There isn't an IAB plate on my F22a1 manifold.

Originally Posted by v4lu3s
what mounts do you have? I had an h22a with both HCP and Hasport mounts and was able to fit the stock manifold, euro-r (which sits lower) and the skunk2 under the hood (it had firewall clearance issues).
I don't have any firewall clearance issues with mine...

Also, Andryzzle that link you posted up... That could potentially be an option!

Thanks for all the input so far!
Reply
Old May 8, 2012 | 06:22 AM
  #17  
Blaze45's Avatar
Thread Starter
Brrraaaap!
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,950
Likes: 3
From: AZ
Default Re: H23a/F22a IM options

Originally Posted by ashb82
i have seen a dyno of a OBX manifold on cb7tuner, but the guy said it was modified and never told what he modified. i think i am going to see what one will do



300hp 215 trq from a NA F22? Impressive!
Reply
Old May 8, 2012 | 06:33 AM
  #18  
GhostAccord's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 11,399
Likes: 69
From: East Coast 506, Canada
Default Re: H23a/F22a IM options

That's not your everyday F22. IIRC that is Steve's (2point6 formerly of collective racing) girl friends car. It's sleeved and bored out, with oversized valves and running 11.*/12:1 compression.

Wasn't sure if it was you or not. I can never remember all the members and the threads that get posted. You probably should have kept the same thread going. Instead of starting a new one on the same subject.......
Reply
Old May 8, 2012 | 06:51 AM
  #19  
TouringAccord's Avatar
H-T Order of Merit
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 9,172
Likes: 7
From: somewhere in MI
Default Re: H23a/F22a IM options

Originally Posted by Blaze45
There isn't an IAB plate on my F22a1 manifold.
ah, gotcha, for some reason I was thinking you were using an F22A6 IM.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
2mchbst
For Sale
1
Nov 16, 2011 06:46 PM
JENNY_EG6
Want to Buy
1
Sep 18, 2009 07:44 PM
JDMDK
Southeast (Sales)
2
Jan 11, 2007 03:10 PM
high_revs
Want to Buy
17
Dec 12, 2006 04:10 PM
Hatchbizzack
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
3
Jul 5, 2004 04:58 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:53 AM.