Redline Transmission Fluid
i just took my lude in to be serviced and was goin' to put in redline mtf, but of course the honda tech said to stick w/ oem honda (which didn't surprise me) however he recommended mobile 1 synth, so he wasn't trying to promote EVERYTHING honda (plus this guy has been working for honda/acura for 30 yrs). i thought that by using an aftermarket mtf, my gears would be a lot smoother, but others have tried and it didn't fix the prob. so it brings me back to my q,
are you trying to alleviate the crunch factor when you shift? if there's nothing wrong w/ your tranny now, stick w/ honda and if something is wrong, i'd do more research before i make the transition.
i came upon these 2 articles:
Manual Transmission Fluids
For years, manual transmissions specified standard "90-weight" gear oil. The problem was the heavy, viscous, 90-weight oil reduced fuel economy and sometimes didn’t lubricate well in the modern, close-tolerance manual transmission. In some cases, 90-weight gear oil didn’t allow the synchronizer assemblies to engage properly, which caused a hard shifting condition in cold-weather operating environments. Auto manufacturers then began specifying different viscosities of motor oil and automatic transmission fluid (ATF) for use in specific models of transmissions.
Most troublesome, however, were the manufacturers who specified the nameplate brand of fluid for a specific transmission application. Of course, motor oil or ATF might perform well enough as a top-off or replacement, but its true lubricating and wear prevention characteristics are anybody’s guess.
In response, the aftermarket has now introduced several types of manual transmission replacement fluid that serve as replacements for the nameplate-brand or OEM fluid. Therefore, keep several quarts of the aftermarket fluid on the shelf. In some cases, the lube recommendation for 90-weight gear oil is wrong, and the aftermarket fluid will solve a hard shifting complaint. In other cases, the OEM fluid simply isn’t available, so you’ll need to offer the aftermarket replacement.
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Years ago ATF was ATF. You could use it in any car. Ford was the only one who used a different fluid. But today with car manufacturers using different materials in their transmissions, they need to use more highly specialized fluids. Chrysler in particular comes to mind. If you don't use Chrysler fluid, the transmission will definitely shift erratically.
So at this point, I would use the Honda fluid until the aftermarket people start making a fluid (if they haven't already) that is compatible with Honda transmissions
are you trying to alleviate the crunch factor when you shift? if there's nothing wrong w/ your tranny now, stick w/ honda and if something is wrong, i'd do more research before i make the transition.
i came upon these 2 articles:
Manual Transmission Fluids
For years, manual transmissions specified standard "90-weight" gear oil. The problem was the heavy, viscous, 90-weight oil reduced fuel economy and sometimes didn’t lubricate well in the modern, close-tolerance manual transmission. In some cases, 90-weight gear oil didn’t allow the synchronizer assemblies to engage properly, which caused a hard shifting condition in cold-weather operating environments. Auto manufacturers then began specifying different viscosities of motor oil and automatic transmission fluid (ATF) for use in specific models of transmissions.
Most troublesome, however, were the manufacturers who specified the nameplate brand of fluid for a specific transmission application. Of course, motor oil or ATF might perform well enough as a top-off or replacement, but its true lubricating and wear prevention characteristics are anybody’s guess.
In response, the aftermarket has now introduced several types of manual transmission replacement fluid that serve as replacements for the nameplate-brand or OEM fluid. Therefore, keep several quarts of the aftermarket fluid on the shelf. In some cases, the lube recommendation for 90-weight gear oil is wrong, and the aftermarket fluid will solve a hard shifting complaint. In other cases, the OEM fluid simply isn’t available, so you’ll need to offer the aftermarket replacement.
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Years ago ATF was ATF. You could use it in any car. Ford was the only one who used a different fluid. But today with car manufacturers using different materials in their transmissions, they need to use more highly specialized fluids. Chrysler in particular comes to mind. If you don't use Chrysler fluid, the transmission will definitely shift erratically.
So at this point, I would use the Honda fluid until the aftermarket people start making a fluid (if they haven't already) that is compatible with Honda transmissions
Hey thanks alot i had no idea about using after market transmission fluid would matter. MY friends all use redline in their cars, all said they like it better. (civic si, type r and probe gt.) I have to look into this some more. THere is nothing wrong with the tranny or cluth i just got my car like 2 weeks ago. I am doing all basic maintence. plugs/wires all fluids flushed and changed. THanks again I will read up some more.
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