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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 09:49 AM
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Default Conti Tire Series oops!!

I know many of you have either heard of this race or seen some footage. Well, I didn't know where to add this, so I made a thread about it.

https://vimeo.com/39577116
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 10:19 AM
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good lord
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 10:26 AM
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Would you be so kind as to embed so those of us at work could watch?
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 10:30 AM
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Looked more like the running of the bulls than a race.
Im speachless.
Must be nice to ruin a new race car on the first two laps?

The attrition rate in that race was horrible.
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 11:25 AM
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"Pro racing at it's finest!! That's why it's better to rent a ride (for a measley $10,000-$15,000+ a weekend) and have crash insurance for every race ($4000)
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 12:40 PM
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Maybe 70 cars is just too many on a road course?
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 01:52 PM
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Thats....amazing.
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 01:57 PM
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Holy.... the second crash wasn't even near a turn.
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 02:51 PM
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Yeah, that was a mess. Our car was in 9th and 10th was taken out. We were VERY close to being caught up in it. There were a number of idiot rookies (mostly on the same team) that messed up that first start. The furthest forward asshat in the Starworks Mustang "lost his brakes" (no brakes when you dive for the grass...) and his teammate (his son, I believe) in a sister car a few rows back thought he was on to something and followed him down the deep inside. Nobody saw this coming and he hit my brother's #6 Camaro and actually drove up the side of it, removing the Camaro's door and front fender. Many cars tried to limp around and broke down elsewhere, meaning the first caution alone was something like 25 minutes.

The second caution, I'm told, was caused by a Camaro on pole (not going to say a name, team, or number to keep them out of searches). He accelerated off the final corner for the green (fine, usual thing to do from pole) and then slammed the brakes just before the line, causing a 71-car accordion effect which caught out the 97 car, about mid pack. My codriver was very confident of this, and even acquired some damage which eventually delegated us to 11th by the end of the race (punctured radiator and knocked-off wires).

This was a messy race. There were too many people that didn't belong to be there. I've spoken with Grand-Am about creating real licensing system. Maybe not like Rolex with FIA certification (as an American it's still a bit tedious), but at least something to ensure safety and series image.
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 02:53 PM
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that was like forza..
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 03:04 PM
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Watching the vid it really looked like the mustang was diving for a gap that wasn't there then he vaulted up a car so I guess I was right lol I couldn't figure out what would cause the second crash and I, now, don't understand why the lead car would get on the brakes down the front straight. Could he have thought they hadn't shown the green flag? Seems like a very odd thing to happen.
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 03:07 PM
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OMG Matt you were in that heap of stupidity and survived?

That was unbelieveable
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 03:23 PM
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So in essence it could be said too much money to race, and not enough experience.
At the 53 second mark there is a loud bang on the car we are watching this from.
I wonder what he hit or what hit him.. or ran over?
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 03:40 PM
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The lead car should NOT have brakes. It is poor sportsmanship and he should have known it would cause a mess. In pro racing you can accelerate before the green. Once the pace car is in the leader can pick his own speed to balance out the fact that P2 is alongside. He accelerated quickly from the final corner, and was attempting to check people up with his brakes. The driver a a friend of mine, and a good guy, but he made a poor decision that sent two drivers to the hospital. There are changes that need to be made on Grand-Am's side. First, better understanding of what "deciding the pace" means for a restart, and secondly, as I've mentioned, to weed out idiots and ********.
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 04:50 PM
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Looks like a HC race lol!
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 05:00 PM
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Weeee



From the M3 forum
Police say one of the other drivers (seen in the video, in the white Aston Martin) was seen speaking with the driver of the Mustang just an hour or so prior to the grizzly discovery of his body face down and covered in **** in a shallow creek on thursday.
Craig - Who can't confirm this.
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 05:42 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJpm5xLlvlo
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 05:47 PM
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hol-e-krAp!!
unfortunately, i have seen that in club racing also. stuff happens.
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by donut.
that was like forza..
Had to comment on the Vimeo video...

Seen cleaner starts on Forza!
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 07:47 PM
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The super slo mo shows Matt ahead and avoiding all that Evil Kenevil stuntman crap.
See the dark blue, red and yellow camaro about 8 cars back in the still too.
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MBellRacing
and his teammate (his son, I believe) in a sister car a few rows back thought he was on to something and followed him down the deep inside. Nobody saw this coming and he hit my brother's #6 Camaro and actually drove up the side of it, removing the Camaro's door and front fender.

The second caution, I'm told, was caused by a Camaro on pole (not going to say a name, team, or number to keep them out of searches). He accelerated off the final corner for the green (fine, usual thing to do from pole) and then slammed the brakes just before the line, causing a 71-car accordion effect which caught out the 97 car, about mid pack. My codriver was very confident of this, and even acquired some damage which eventually delegated us to 11th by the end of the race (punctured radiator and knocked-off wires).
Yeah, that "dive bomb" was a swell move.

That restart, holy moly, crap everywhere. The good ol' check up move.
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 06:29 AM
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I have no desire to ever be on track racing with that many cars, ever. Not to mention a 2 mile long track. Comepleteley utterly ridiculous IMHO. Sanctioning body made a lot of money though.
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Hagakure
I have no desire to ever be on track racing with that many cars, ever. Not to mention a 2 mile long track. Comepleteley utterly ridiculous IMHO. Sanctioning body made a lot of money though.
I have to agree with you on that one Percy.
Too many for too little room.
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 07:22 AM
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The car counts have been a good amount in that series. They had almost 60 there, last year. At Mid-Ohio, they had around 70. So, really, it was a couple "dumb" decisions made by a few people.
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Egezzy
it was a couple "dumb" decisions made by a few people.
And these guys are supposed to be "good". I guess this shows that money talks and even if you can't make clear choices on the track, as long as you can pay for entry you can race...
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