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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 05:25 PM
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im doing a swap in with parts i got into my crx si and i wanna know witch tranny is best or witch i can use i got a b2 with z6 head and i got these 2 trannys witch is btter or can i use?? the 1 in the car says L3-1358250 an im not sure how good it still is and i got this other a while ago it says s40-1891356 but it has several sensor plugs on it i never seen before maybe its newer? tell me what you think..
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 05:45 PM
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Well first man let me just correct you with "which" not "witch"....no poking at ya'..and two if you look at where the passenger side axle goes there's a small circle that'll say PL3 with a slash under it and under the slash will be A100 or A1000, A3000, B3000 and there's a couple other ones. Basically any one that has a letter with a number in the thousandths is a low geared tranny. For the S40....that sounds like a newer tranny. Is it a hydro?
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 05:47 PM
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So either way s40 is better can I use it in an 89
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 06:02 PM
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Is it a hydro? The PL3 is a cable tranny.....if you're S40 is a hydro you'll have to convert your car to hydro. Plus, what was your tranny stamped with on each one on the place I told you about?
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 06:21 PM
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Dang ... I thought this was the thread with ladyboys in Halloween costumes.
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 06:22 PM
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The s40 says p4a b000
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 06:31 PM
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Dang ... I thought this was the thread with ladyboys in Halloween costumes.
Inorite

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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KINGVEM^^ED6
Inorite

I *** in you you *** on the floor
I haven't seen that movie yet....heard it was great though.
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 4drEF
Dang ... I thought this was the thread with ladyboys in Halloween costumes.
UNITY!!!!
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 90civic-ZC
Well first man let me just correct you with "which" not "witch"....no poking at ya'..and two if you look at where the passenger side axle goes there's a small circle that'll say PL3 with a slash under it and under the slash will be A100 or A1000, A3000, B3000 and there's a couple other ones. Basically any one that has a letter with a number in the thousandths is a low geared tranny. For the S40....that sounds like a newer tranny. Is it a hydro?
^^^ the above isn't correct 100% of the time

This has been covered about a million times too. I posted the how-to on how to check it below in the "[Code]" box to clean up the post a little.

Depending on whether you want acceleration or MPGs will decide which transmission you want.

Code:
DETERMINING WHICH TRANSMISSION YOU HAVE
1. All 88-91 Civic/CRX transmissions are Model L3. Some 91’s are labelled SL3, but are still the
same transmission.
2. You cannot tell what model of car (Si, DX, HF, LX, EX or even 4-speed STD) the transmission
was initially installed in by just looking at the outside of the transmission. The only exception to
this is the 88-91 JDM ZC L3 transmission. The splined holes in the differential where the axles
are inserted are a larger diameter on the ZC transmission. All other L3’s have the same size
smaller splined hole for the axles.
3. You may read at various sites on the Internet that you can tell what model the transmission is by
looking at the numbers in the circle by the oil fill plug. You will read something like, “if it says
PL3/3000, it is Si” or “if it says PL3/A000, it is DX, etc.” This is not necessarily true! If it says
PL3/3000, it could be Si, but it could also be a DX or ZC. These numbers are casting numbers for
the back half of the transmission case and are not necessarily an indication of which Final Drive
gears are inside.
4. There are two ways to tell which Final Drive gears your transmission has – you can open it up and
count the teeth on the gears, or you can use the following procedure:
Transmission Out of Car
A. Shift the transmission into reverse. To do this, take a Phillips screwdriver and insert it
through the hole in the shift arm shaft that projects out of the transmission (where the shift
linkage connects) and when looking at the end of this shaft, rotate the shaft to the right and
push the shaft in. Check to see if it is in reverse by looking at the differential (where the axles
go in) while rotating the input shaft. The differential should be turning in the opposite
direction from the input shaft.
B. Take a paint pen or marker and place a reference mark at the 12 o’clock position on the
differential and another mark at the 12 o’clock position on the input shaft. Rotate the input
shaft and count the number of revolutions that the input shaft makes in order to rotate the
differential exactly one complete turn. The number of revolutions will tell you which Final
Drive you have. (See Chart Below)
Transmission In Car
A. Jack up front driver’s side of car and place a jack stand under it. Shift the transmission into
reverse.
B. Take a paint pen or marker and place a reference mark at the 12 o’clock position on the
driver’s side tire and another mark at the 12 o’clock position on the crankshaft pulley. Using
a socket and ratchet on the crankshaft pulley bolt, rotate the engine counterclockwise and
count the number of revolutions that the cranshaft pulley makes in order to rotate the tire
exactly one complete turn. The number of revolutions will tell you which Final Drive you
have. (See Chart Below)
C.
12.25 Revolutions = 3.88:1 DX (or ZC)
12.75 Revolutions = 4.05:1 EX (also some 90-91 Civic Si)
13.40 Revolutions = 4.25:1 Si
Anything less than 12.25 Revolutions = HF (three different ratios were available in HF)

Originally Posted by 88EFsedan2
im doing a swap in with parts i got into my crx si and i wanna know witch tranny is best or witch i can use i got a b2 with z6 head and i got these 2 trannys witch is btter or can i use?? the 1 in the car says L3-1358250 an im not sure how good it still is and i got this other a while ago it says s40-1891356 but it has several sensor plugs on it i never seen before maybe its newer? tell me what you think..
First of all, it's "which" you live in America, you have no excuse. It's my second language so please keep your excuses to yourself.


Also there is a difference between

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whether weather

and I guess: which and witch... seriously?!
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 08:29 PM
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Wow I thought this was a Honda forum not a dam speech class last time I ask for help on here
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 08:39 PM
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^^
agreed
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 04:14 AM
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*damn*
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 04:49 AM
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I agree it isnt the most accurate way to tell what gears you have in the tranny by looking at the stamp. But obviously the O.P. didnt look in the sticky's so instead of copy and pasting the link or describing the shaft rotating method, I just went with the general/easiest way. O.P. I'd personally go with your PL3 tranny. Sounds like it's what you had in the CRX Si.....also O.P. a lot of good info is in the FAQ's fyi.
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 88EFsedan2
Wow I thought this was a Honda forum not a dam speech class last time I ask for help on here
Take it easy nOOB!
Consider it sort of like an initiation.
I guess if you are really offended, you could try Yahoo answers.
Good luck with that.


There is no way to answer your question - you didn't give enough info.
There isn't simply a BEST transmission for your engine.
It depends on what you plan to use the car for and how you drive it.
Examples:
You wouldn't use an HF tranny for drag racing.
You wouldn't use a ZC/Si hybrid tranny for setting a land speed record.

If this is just a daily driver then your options are wide open.
DX gearing gets the job done.
Si gearing adds a little pep off the line at the expense of quicker shifting and slightly more trips to the gas station.
For performance, you want to rip through the gears just about as fast as you can while keeping your RPM up in the vtec zone between shifts.
ZC/Si hybrids are great for this - but - shifting constantly and if you used the 5th gear then your top speed is going to suffer while you try to cruise at 80mph turning high RPM.
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 90civic-ZC
I agree it isnt the most accurate way to tell what gears you have in the tranny by looking at the stamp. But obviously the O.P. didnt look in the sticky's so instead of copy and pasting the link or describing the shaft rotating method, I just went with the general/easiest way. O.P. I'd personally go with your PL3 tranny. Sounds like it's what you had in the CRX Si.....also O.P. a lot of good info is in the FAQ's fyi.
I'm not making fun of your instructions, the idea is generally correct. Keyword is generally. But if you're trying to guarantee which transmission it is I wouldn't rely on it.

Originally Posted by 4drEF
Take it easy nOOB!
Consider it sort of like an initiation.
I guess if you are really offended, you could try Yahoo answers.
Good luck with that.


There is no way to answer your question - you didn't give enough info.
There isn't simply a BEST transmission for your engine.
It depends on what you plan to use the car for and how you drive it.
Examples:
You wouldn't use an HF tranny for drag racing.
You wouldn't use a ZC/Si hybrid tranny for setting a land speed record.

If this is just a daily driver then your options are wide open.
DX gearing gets the job done.
Si gearing adds a little pep off the line at the expense of quicker shifting and slightly more trips to the gas station.
For performance, you want to rip through the gears just about as fast as you can while keeping your RPM up in the vtec zone between shifts.
ZC/Si hybrids are great for this - but - shifting constantly and if you used the 5th gear then your top speed is going to suffer while you try to cruise at 80mph turning high RPM.
Agreed.

To OP:

Learn to type/spell and I won't have to rag on you.

You got the correct answer within 10 posts, good luck with Yahoo.
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