I have a 95 civic ex coupe, so I am wondering what engine would be the best to go with; I am kind of liking the B18C5 Type R. Would this even fit into my car? If so what would be the appx. cost to do this whole swap; other than mounts what else would i need in order to complete the swap, and I'm also planning on switching my automatic transmission to a manual (appx cost on this would also be appreciated). Would it be worth all the money that would be spent on this swap?

 

$3,000-$10,000.

That is probably the most accurate answer you can get. There are so many facets to this question that you'll never be able to answer.

Who's doing the swap?
What's your budget?
Why the b18C5? (It is a great motor, but mostly it's the transmission imo)

For most people, you should expect to spend ~$6,000 easily to get the swap running in your car. Converting to manual only adds more to the cost.

 

My brother knows a mechanic who does them, its not a certain thing Im going to do, but in any case I do decide to do so, at least I'll have some info on what to expect.

No budget at all. My Dad has been thinking about getting me a new car already, but idk if i should go for a new car or just switch up my current one.

I like the b18c5, no real reason, just to have it I guess lol...its also pretty fun when no one would assume you have a 200 hp engine under a 95 civic. not sure what u mean by imo with the transmission

 

In My Opinion imo. Yes type-r motors are nice but they are a status symbol. The GS-R is easy to make well above 200 hp, but if you do not want to build a motor the Type-R is a good platform.

 

I agree with hondad6 just go for a gsr...that's what I'm going for...I have a 94 civic ex coupe and it was an auto...I did the 5 speed conversion and now I'm going for a gsr swap...the auto to manual conversion wasn't expensive at all if u do it yourself...I didn't know anything but I did a lot of research and some buddy's pointed me at.the right direction...just get the parts from the junkyard, craigslist, and eBay...

 

GSR motor all the way. Way cheaper than a C5. Or if you just want a cheap swap that would add some power for your car B18B1's are your best bet. They are easy to come by, and don't have near as many problems as the GSR because they are non-vtec.

 

Does the GS-R give 200 HP as well?

 

@Dan_EJ1 how much did u spend on the transmission? and if u can please let me know what parts i would have to buy.

 

You can look up the power of individual motors on Wikipedia, and there are multiple extensive writeups for motor swaps all over the forums. Just search.

 

There is a search button that will help you find what you need to know. These are questions that have been asked a million time. A little research would of told you that any b series motor is basically a drop in swap for a eg/ek. We are here to help, not hold your hand!!

I would just get daddy to buy you a newer civic with a k motor and leave it stock.

 

Honestly---Id just buy a different car, that was already 5 speed, or something that was already swapped that you have checked out by a trusted mechanic.

Engine swaps are expensive, getting them wired up correctly is expensive, and getting the kinks worked out is expensive. Time and money....

If you have a mechanic friend, and you just have to buy parts, Id go for it. Get a B18c1 though (Gsr motor) the C5 motor (Type R) is ok, but your paying a premium for the "type R" nothing else really.

Id suggest trying to find people that have the swaps and go for rides in them if possible. Numbers mean nothing, so you can read and read and read, it doesn't mean squat. B16's say they put out 160 hp, gsr motors 170, (depends on year you purchase) etc etc. That is hard to translate til you ride in them.

If nothing else, youtube it. I mean at least you get an idea of what a pull is like. Im sure there is a B18c5 in a 95 civic on there you can watch. However theres so many variables...is the car stripped (lightweight), is the motor healthy, is the vtec working, any cams/tuning etc.

Thats the big cost issue. Honestly though cheapest your getting a b18c5 for is 3500-4000 minimum at least over here on the east coast. Tack on a good 2k for labor minimum unless you got a deal worked out.

Cheaper to just buy a car swapped and make sure its healthy. A friend of mine just picked up a crx with a b18c5 for 4500, with wheels, cams, tuned, new paint etc etc etc. The seller had receipts for 25k plus. Funny part about modifying cars, it doesn't add value to them 95% of the time. Good for my friend though, hes got a 5k paint job, for free basically. He had the car checked out, with a fine tooth comb, cost him 250 bucks, but thats ALOT cheaper then finding issues down the road.

Something to consider.

 

get a b20 and build it.. its better than a b18c5

 

If you get a Type R go for the b18c.

 

^^ Lots of good stuff here. The GS-R is a good platform for further upgrades, The Type-R is also upgradable but it is pretty much optimized for what it is. Not saying it cant be moded, it is just a lot of money if you do something wrong and kill it.

 

get a b18b1 or b20. build it. then buy a b16a head. spend 700 on a vtec kit.

smoke b18s and GSRs all night long for a lot less.

 

no ***** you won't do a 3.5l j swap

 

If you want go power, forget the gs-r swap. Think H22. I have only exhaust and tuning and I am making more power at the wheel then what a b18c5 makes at the crank.

 

Are you posting your dyno graph on every thread?

To the OP: Considering the fact that it sounds like you are new to the Honda scene, I would strongly suggest sticking with either a B18C in stock form. Don't attempt to build a motor from parts as this leads to issues about 90% of the time if you don't know what you are doing or are trusting someone who you do not know. If there is no budget, get a Type-R motor. There is no reason not to as they are great motors and you will notice an incredible difference. In your case, I believe it's better to buy a great motor from the start, install it, and have fun with it than it is to spend lots of time sourcing parts and hoping for the best.

 

it would seem he his. h22s don't go in every car perfectly. and definitely not a starter motor.

 

H2B's do

And it's my starter motor

Well, technically it's an h23.

 

h22's and h2b's eat s**t wen they over rev.. bye bye
trust me b series can easily easily redline all day and not have a single problem in stock form.. u cant really do that with a h22 motor unless u put some $ into the motor
i raced 1 guy with a h2b and he over rev'ed and boom!! he is now running a B series motor..

 

That may have been your friends case, but just because it happened once doesn't mean it's the rule. So, I guess you're right if you "over rev" them. They aren't small displacement engines, they do not make power that far into the power band

There are TONS of h2b guys reving stock blocks to 8-9k with no issues.

And h22s and h2bs wouldn't be any different if they did have problems with revs.

People just have to realize that bigger block hondas only make power to 7500-8000 rpms, the people who treat them like b-series engines and rev them to 9,000rpms are the ones slapping valves.

There are a number of h2b guys running high 11's and 12's on stock bottom ends. And have been doing so for years.

Completely stock block h2b runnin an 11.3, no b-series can touch that.

http://youtu.be/nVuWSdYl_7I

And slowegg has been road racing his for a while now without issues:

http://youtu.be/ypSawyJU7MU

 

B series swaps are lame,, I could push my car with my two hands harder then a b swap. But if you have lots of cash, drop in a TSX engine. I only posted a dyno graph in 2 threads asking about swaps. Just to show a H series with basic bolt ons and tuning kills a gs-r swap or a c5

 

b seriesss all day

 

Now we are confusing him. Just go with the B18C. Type-R it is a great motor and you will enjoy it. Especially if there is no budget.