I have a 2000 civic Si that I converted to obd1.. The car had a Clifford alarm... While street tuning my tuner said my dizzy was going bad... Few weeks later I get a cel code 9... I buy a oem dizzy that was tested and worked... I start removing the current dizzy and I notice there's a wire tapped into the blue wire on the dizzy plug which is the tach wire for the Clifford... I remove it and do the same to the new dizzy... Bolt the new dizzy back on and try starting the car and no luck... It doesn't turn over... No spark... So I put the old dizzy back on and it does the same thing...what could it be? It worked fine a few hours ago... Changing the dizzy is easy... What could of gone wrong? Thanks!

 

I don't see where you reattached the little blue wire. If you put it back to the last known working state (with the alarm still wired in) does the car start?

 

nope i wired it back how it was and nothing happened... it wont crank

 

wires in correct order? distributor not 180 off?

 

bad dizzy

 

what do u mean but dizzy not 180 off? the dizzy was tested before and it worked...

 

i put the old one back on which worked but gave me a cel code 9 and still does the same thing... doesnt start

 

again, are your wires in the correct order?

 

yes they are...

 

my wires are numbered and i drew a pic of them how it was before unplugging anything....

 

when you turn the key, is the engine cranking at normal speed? have you tried adjusting the dizzy timing to see if it will fire up?

 

u mean like turning back and fourth? ive only put the dizzy right in the middle...

 

what else could it be?

 

what can suddenly cause the car not to start when changing the dizzy?

 

nothing, other than incorrect firing order. or an electrical connector. im not familiar with alarm wiring, but it may be possible that the alarm is preventing the car from starting??

 

Car is off timing big time! Buy a new tensioner

 

????!!!!!! IDK what that even means. Why is the car suddenly off timing?

OP: what do you mean the car is converted to OBD1? Was the previous distributor an OBD1 distributor? Is the new distributor OBD1 or OBD2?

Weird situations I have encountered with distributors:
-Removed distributor and tugged on the harness. This caused the thermostat ground connection to break and the car wouldn't run. Check that.

-Some jackass put the rotor blade on backwards...and then jammed the distributor on 180 degrees off. So the car ran. When I removed the distributor and put it on correctly, it was 180 degrees off and the car wouldn't run. I checked by pulling the cap off and rotating the motor manually to TDC. I saw it was pointing at cylinder 4. So I removed the blade, flipped it, and the car started right up no problem.

You're not getting spark...so I doubt that the 180 degrees off thing is the problem. How have you tested for spark?

 

maybe the solenoid burnt out happen to my friend doing a timing bely on his d16 he bolted everything back up and when we went to crank the car up it wouldn't start keep in mind he didn't even touch the dizzy while working on it then he jst put mine in and the car cranked right up

 

I have a obd1 jumper and chipped ecu...

Timing was off like 45 degrees... If that makes any sense...

We tested for spark by pulling out a spark plug wire and touched a nut on the valve cover and it sparks so we knew the dizzy worked...

 

I checked all the grounds and everything looks good... We noticed the car was off timing, I don't know how that happened from 1 sec to another but the car has been driving shitty for the passed week.. My buddy touched the belt and it was soft so he said the tensioner probably went bad...

 

I found this:



and here's the thread:

https://honda-tech.com/forums/hybrid-engine-swaps-18/help-obd2-obd1-dizzy-alt-wiring-1736189/

Also did you get a 99-00 Si dizzy? I know that the way the wires go on the dizzy are different for 1.8s say if you have a GSR or ITR dizzy.

 

thanks! yea i bought a obd2 b16 dizzy... im buying a timing belt tensioner today and putting it on timing once i get home...

 

Car is on timing and starts... Same thing tho... Cel code 9 comes on...

 

when you put the dizzy in

1. put motor at TDC piston 1
2. check that rotor button is at position 1 pluglead
3 then put new dizzy in and make sure rotor button is at position 1 pluglead
4 start engine and check timming with timming light

this is how to avoide 180 deg out
if you just put the dizzy on with out looking and setting the motor as above
you would have the rotot button pointed at plug lead 4 "thats 180 out"

 

Color of spark?