Cam comparison
2 motors listed for each cam on gains or deficiencies
1st motor
Stock d16z6
2nd motor
D16z6
oem springs retainers
Comp Cams 59100
mild port and polish z6 head
portmatched z6 intake
portmatched z6 exhaust
SC7125 CP pistons (11 to 1)
eagle rods
lightened crank (-6 lbs +1/2-)
fidanza flywheel
Ill start listing cams - please exeriance with the cams - no flaming. comparison of duration, lift, vtec, exhaust, centerline
All are n/a cams (if oem values are listed for cams, information has not been received)
Stock z6(from crower)___________Primary lift/Duraion .xxx@xxx int .xxx@xxx exh_______Seondary lift/duration .394@212 int .373@204 exh
Blox Stg 1_______250___________Primary lift/Duraion .xxx@184 int .213@212 exh_______Seondary lift/duration .255@234 int .213@212 exh
Cams gave Lobe Lift, not valve lift at .05________________________________estimated Seondary lift/duration .406@234 int .385@212 exh
Blox Stg 2_______250___________Primary lift/Duraion .xxx@188 int .240@217 exh_______Seondary lift/duration .268@242 int .240@217 exh
Cams gave Lobe Lift, not valve lift at .05________________________________estimated Seondary lift/duration .430@242 int .430@217 exh
Crower Stock Replacement_______Primary lift/Duraion .328@197 int .365@207 exh_______Seondary lift/duration .389@220 int .365@207 exh
Crower stg 1_____329___________Primary lift/Duraion .328@197 int .385@208 exh_______Seondary lift/duration .406@228 int .385@208 exh
Crower stg 2_____329___________Primary lift/Duraion .328@197 int .427@217 exh_______Seondary lift/duration .430@234 int .427@217 exh
Crower stg 2_3/4 Race__________Primary lift/Duraion .328@197 int .436@223 exh_______Seondary lift/duration .432@235 int .436@223 exh
OBX stg1________169.99________Primary lift/Duraion .xxx@xxx int .xxx@xxx exh_______Seondary lift/duration .xxx@xxx int .xxx@xxx exh
Bisi cams measured at .04 lift for duration
Bisi 1___________349___________Primary lift/Duraion .xxx@xxx int .410@230 exh_______Seondary lift/duration .390@230 int .410@230 exh
Bisi 1.2__________349___________Primary lift/Duraion .xxx@xxx int .411@206 exh_______Seondary lift/duration .417@233 int .411@206 exh
Bisi 2___________349___________Primary lift/Duraion .xxx@xxx int .420@225 exh_______Seondary lift/duration .420@246 int .420@225 exh
Bisi 2.3_Nitrous___349___________Primary lift/Duraion .xxx@xxx int .427@234 exh_______Seondary lift/duration .420@246 int .427@234 exh
CompCams59100__269___________Primary lift/Duraion .xxx@xxx int .400@210 exh_______Seondary lift/duration .440@214 int .400@210 exh
CompCams59300__269___________Primary lift/Duraion .xxx@xxx int .430@216 exh_______Seondary lift/duration .455@220 int .430@216 exh
1st motor
Stock d16z6
2nd motor
D16z6
oem springs retainers
Comp Cams 59100
mild port and polish z6 head
portmatched z6 intake
portmatched z6 exhaust
SC7125 CP pistons (11 to 1)
eagle rods
lightened crank (-6 lbs +1/2-)
fidanza flywheel
Ill start listing cams - please exeriance with the cams - no flaming. comparison of duration, lift, vtec, exhaust, centerline
All are n/a cams (if oem values are listed for cams, information has not been received)
Stock z6(from crower)___________Primary lift/Duraion .xxx@xxx int .xxx@xxx exh_______Seondary lift/duration .394@212 int .373@204 exh
Blox Stg 1_______250___________Primary lift/Duraion .xxx@184 int .213@212 exh_______Seondary lift/duration .255@234 int .213@212 exh
Cams gave Lobe Lift, not valve lift at .05________________________________estimated Seondary lift/duration .406@234 int .385@212 exh
Blox Stg 2_______250___________Primary lift/Duraion .xxx@188 int .240@217 exh_______Seondary lift/duration .268@242 int .240@217 exh
Cams gave Lobe Lift, not valve lift at .05________________________________estimated Seondary lift/duration .430@242 int .430@217 exh
Crower Stock Replacement_______Primary lift/Duraion .328@197 int .365@207 exh_______Seondary lift/duration .389@220 int .365@207 exh
Crower stg 1_____329___________Primary lift/Duraion .328@197 int .385@208 exh_______Seondary lift/duration .406@228 int .385@208 exh
Crower stg 2_____329___________Primary lift/Duraion .328@197 int .427@217 exh_______Seondary lift/duration .430@234 int .427@217 exh
Crower stg 2_3/4 Race__________Primary lift/Duraion .328@197 int .436@223 exh_______Seondary lift/duration .432@235 int .436@223 exh
OBX stg1________169.99________Primary lift/Duraion .xxx@xxx int .xxx@xxx exh_______Seondary lift/duration .xxx@xxx int .xxx@xxx exh
Bisi cams measured at .04 lift for duration
Bisi 1___________349___________Primary lift/Duraion .xxx@xxx int .410@230 exh_______Seondary lift/duration .390@230 int .410@230 exh
Bisi 1.2__________349___________Primary lift/Duraion .xxx@xxx int .411@206 exh_______Seondary lift/duration .417@233 int .411@206 exh
Bisi 2___________349___________Primary lift/Duraion .xxx@xxx int .420@225 exh_______Seondary lift/duration .420@246 int .420@225 exh
Bisi 2.3_Nitrous___349___________Primary lift/Duraion .xxx@xxx int .427@234 exh_______Seondary lift/duration .420@246 int .427@234 exh
CompCams59100__269___________Primary lift/Duraion .xxx@xxx int .400@210 exh_______Seondary lift/duration .440@214 int .400@210 exh
CompCams59300__269___________Primary lift/Duraion .xxx@xxx int .430@216 exh_______Seondary lift/duration .455@220 int .430@216 exh
Last edited by xero_xero; Feb 22, 2012 at 03:41 PM.
What are you looking for exactly? If you want the specs, each of the manufacturers should have them posted or can send them to you. Every cam is designed for a specific purpose; you haven't told us what you are using this motor for: dd, drag only, auto-x, etc.
im looking for real world experience with the cams. and trying to justify why it works well for what i have.. these are the cams i have found, and comparison of duration, lift, vtec, exhaust, centerline mean nothing unless i can compare the cam side by side.
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David "DJ" Hernandez
CROWER RACING CAMS AND EQUIPMENT
6180 BUSINESS CENTER CT.
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Name: Clayton Ward
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Telephone: 6785683113
Comment: Concerning the camshaft produced for the D16z6. i am looking for the “plot” or a lift plot for the Stage 1 and Stage 2 cams
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Click on pdf catalog….
David "DJ" Hernandez
CROWER RACING CAMS AND EQUIPMENT
6180 BUSINESS CENTER CT.
SAN DIEGO CA, 92154
dj@crower.com
Ph: 619-690-7831
Fax:619-661-6466
-----Original Message-----
From: Information [mailto:information@crower.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:25 PM
To: contactus
Subject: Contact Form
Name: Clayton Ward
E-mail: cward4325@gmail.com
Telephone: 6785683113
Comment: Concerning the camshaft produced for the D16z6. i am looking for the “plot” or a lift plot for the Stage 1 and Stage 2 cams
From comp Cams camshaft recomendation
For your 1.6 I would look at cam part number 59100. Duration @ .050 215/211 Lift is .441/.401 with a 103 and 111 Centerline…. This works with mostly stick components. The cost of the cam is 272.95 and I can cover shipping to the lower 48 states.
Gabriel Ray
Technical Consultant
COMP Performance Group™
3406 Democrat Rd.
Memphis, TN 38118
Toll Free: (800)999-0853 Fax: (901)366-1807
gray@compcams.com www.compperformancegroup.com
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Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:06 AM
To: Gaberial Ray
Subject: Clayton Ward - COMPCams.com - Camshaft Recommendation Form
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Camshaft Recommendation Request
Note To Customer: The information below has been received by CAM Help� tech support. This email is for your records.
CONTACT INFORMATION
First Name:Clayton
Email:cward4325@gmail.com
Last Name:Ward
Day Phone: (8am-5pm CST)6785683113
VEHICLE INFORMATION
Make:Honda
Model:Civic
Year:1995
Weight:2000 lbs.
Axle Ratio:4.25
Transmission Type:Manual
Overall Tire Height:205/50/14
Torque Converter Stall Speed:N/A
ENGINE INFORMATION
Engine Block Type:Select Engine Block Type...
Engine Family:
Engine Size:1.6 ltr.
Number of Cylinders:4
Bore:75
Stroke:90
Compression Ratio:9
Connecting Rod Length:137mm
Intake Manifold Type
em
Cylinder Head(s) Brand:N/A
Head Runner Volume:N/A
Ported Heads:No
Intake Valve Size:N/A
Exhaust Valve Size:N/A
Rocker Arm Type:Stock
Rocker Arm Ratio:N/A
Exhaust Headers:No
RPM Range Low:500
RPM Range High:8200
Nitrous Oxide:No
Horsepower from Nitrous:N/A
COMPUTER CONTROLLED VEHICLES
Vehicle Computer Type:Stock with Chip
Speed Density Sensor:Yes
Mass Air Sensor:No
FUEL DELIVERY
Fuel Type:
Select Fuel Type
Fuel Octane Rating:93
Carburetor:No
Carburetor Size:N/A
Direct Port Injection:No
Electronic Fuel Injection:Yes
Custom Tuned:Yes
AIR DELIVERY
Turbo Charger:No
Supercharger:No
Max Boost Level:N/A
APPLICATION SPECIFICS
Application Type
erformance Street
Other Application Type:N/A
Race Class (If Applicable):N/A
VALVE TRAIN SPECIFICS
Desired Lifter Type:Solid Flat Tappet
What type of camshaft are you currently using?
Camshaft Brand
em
Part Number:N/A
Specs:N/A
Considering the current peformance of your vehicle, do you need:
More Low Speed Torque?Yes
More RPM?No
Is Idling Speed Important?No
Is Emissions Compliance Important?No
Does Your Vehicle Currently Use the Following:
Air Conditioning?No
Power Steering?No
Power Brakes?Yes
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
OEM motor/head - may upgrade springs/retainers if necessary.
For your 1.6 I would look at cam part number 59100. Duration @ .050 215/211 Lift is .441/.401 with a 103 and 111 Centerline…. This works with mostly stick components. The cost of the cam is 272.95 and I can cover shipping to the lower 48 states.
Gabriel Ray
Technical Consultant
COMP Performance Group™
3406 Democrat Rd.
Memphis, TN 38118
Toll Free: (800)999-0853 Fax: (901)366-1807
gray@compcams.com www.compperformancegroup.com
From: Competition Cams [mailto:Compcams@compcams.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Mick
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:06 AM
To: Gaberial Ray
Subject: Clayton Ward - COMPCams.com - Camshaft Recommendation Form
Description: http://www.CompCams.com/Base/Images/...0-Logo-001.gif
Camshaft Recommendation Request
Note To Customer: The information below has been received by CAM Help� tech support. This email is for your records.
CONTACT INFORMATION
First Name:Clayton
Email:cward4325@gmail.com
Last Name:Ward
Day Phone: (8am-5pm CST)6785683113
VEHICLE INFORMATION
Make:Honda
Model:Civic
Year:1995
Weight:2000 lbs.
Axle Ratio:4.25
Transmission Type:Manual
Overall Tire Height:205/50/14
Torque Converter Stall Speed:N/A
ENGINE INFORMATION
Engine Block Type:Select Engine Block Type...
Engine Family:
Engine Size:1.6 ltr.
Number of Cylinders:4
Bore:75
Stroke:90
Compression Ratio:9
Connecting Rod Length:137mm
Intake Manifold Type
emCylinder Head(s) Brand:N/A
Head Runner Volume:N/A
Ported Heads:No
Intake Valve Size:N/A
Exhaust Valve Size:N/A
Rocker Arm Type:Stock
Rocker Arm Ratio:N/A
Exhaust Headers:No
RPM Range Low:500
RPM Range High:8200
Nitrous Oxide:No
Horsepower from Nitrous:N/A
COMPUTER CONTROLLED VEHICLES
Vehicle Computer Type:Stock with Chip
Speed Density Sensor:Yes
Mass Air Sensor:No
FUEL DELIVERY
Fuel Type:
Select Fuel Type
Fuel Octane Rating:93
Carburetor:No
Carburetor Size:N/A
Direct Port Injection:No
Electronic Fuel Injection:Yes
Custom Tuned:Yes
AIR DELIVERY
Turbo Charger:No
Supercharger:No
Max Boost Level:N/A
APPLICATION SPECIFICS
Application Type
erformance StreetOther Application Type:N/A
Race Class (If Applicable):N/A
VALVE TRAIN SPECIFICS
Desired Lifter Type:Solid Flat Tappet
What type of camshaft are you currently using?
Camshaft Brand
emPart Number:N/A
Specs:N/A
Considering the current peformance of your vehicle, do you need:
More Low Speed Torque?Yes
More RPM?No
Is Idling Speed Important?No
Is Emissions Compliance Important?No
Does Your Vehicle Currently Use the Following:
Air Conditioning?No
Power Steering?No
Power Brakes?Yes
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
OEM motor/head - may upgrade springs/retainers if necessary.
From Blox
Clayton,
Although we do not release the actual camshaft data, I have attached each
cam spec sheet you are inquiring about. It will have all the pertinent
information you will need. If you have any other questions, please do not
hesitate to ask.
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Clayton Ward
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:23 PM
To: info@bloxracing.com
Subject: Technical information
Concerning the camshaft produced for the D16z6. i am looking for the "plot"
or a lift plot for the Stage 1 and Stage 2 cams
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Clayton,
Although we do not release the actual camshaft data, I have attached each
cam spec sheet you are inquiring about. It will have all the pertinent
information you will need. If you have any other questions, please do not
hesitate to ask.
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Clayton Ward
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:23 PM
To: info@bloxracing.com
Subject: Technical information
Concerning the camshaft produced for the D16z6. i am looking for the "plot"
or a lift plot for the Stage 1 and Stage 2 cams
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and what you are telling me is i shouldnt share or gain any information. so this shouldnt be a forum? sounds like a communistic approach.
Email to Blox rep
can i get duration at .01 for primary and vtec cam, duration ( at .05) and lift for the primary cam, and instead of lobe lift values, can oyu provide me with advertised valve lift values?
can i get duration at .01 for primary and vtec cam, duration ( at .05) and lift for the primary cam, and instead of lobe lift values, can oyu provide me with advertised valve lift values?
All you're doing is copy/paste emails from these people, which is not only wasting space but also not "providing" any information. And what are you gonna do with a NA pump gas single cam anyway besides run a 14.6??
broke 13 seconds with the setup above. and have limited slip. contacted mfactory as well, pretty displeased about comments and attitude like yours. ripped my 5th gear brace and lsd out of the b16 i have, talked to the sales rep, and i am sending them back.
heres the thing. contact AM have him make you a CUSTOM cam to YOUR needs. what more could you possibly want?
it'll work to exactly what your goals are and perform as such.
don't get blox anything btw.
also its a D not that hard.
it'll work to exactly what your goals are and perform as such.
don't get blox anything btw.
also its a D not that hard.
We've been talking through pms. The information he has posted is good information to know.



