Hi, I was looking to do a very basic turbo setup on my d series. Stock internals, head gasket, head studs. Dont want to do eBay kit. If I piece together a kit what parts/brands are best. Was only planning on running 6 lbs. Like what size injectors, log/tubular mani, ecu, size turbo etc. Can the stock internals handle 6lbs with no problems? Thanks

 

Urg.

 

Whoops. Didn't see that. Amateur hour. Urg

 

Read grumbles links in his signature...stock internals can handle about 200 give or take... Depending on condition of motor.

 

Usually the first thing to go in a Turbo'd D is the headgasket.

 

i also would never ever use stock headstuds once you start building the internals or boosting.

 

the D16z6 can handle that boost no problem but depending on the condition of the motor and how much miles it has can cause you some issues in the future. My buddy before he bought a new car boosted on the same motor but he was boosting 8 pounds. If your going to get a good turbo kit you have to build your motor some what to handle the gained horse powers others wise you are going to run into some issues in the future.

Things you want to upgrade are:
intake manifold
fuel pump
new head gasket
cam
valve springs/valves( don't need to but it will help prevent future problems )
Clutch
Flyweel

Happy boosting!

 

Don't have to upgrade the flywheel, intake manifold, valve springs nor the cam for whatever "mild" boost means.

 

parts/brands are a preference more than anything... wanna spend a lot? or do a low budget build? I know people that have put ebay turbo kits on their cars and have never had issues. I personally attempted an ebay turbo on my 91 240sx with an sr20det... it shelled out after two solid spools... then the company sent me another one free of charge and it continuously pushed 15 psi for four years until I sold the car. There are several really good turbo builds on here. Read through a few of them and I'm sure you'll get tons of ideas that will push you in the right direction for your own build.

 

I made 300whp with the stock intake manifold, cam, valve springs/valves, and clutch. Most of the parts you listed are unnecessary.

Depends on the tune. A thicker headgasket isn't going to make the motor last any longer, referencing your post in the other thread. A higher CR gives the tuner less margin for error, but will spool the turbo faster and make more power. With ARP headstuds, he shouldn't have any problems with the head lifting at this power.

DSM 450cc. Cast ebay manifold. A straight T3 turbo, the .42/.48ar housings work great for a DD. 6lbs on a T4 vs 6 lbs on a T3 are huge differences. Set a horsepower goal.

You can DD a stock motor at around 200whp reliably, depending on your tune. www.d-series.org get to reading.

 

First thing ill be doing is the headstuds, head gasket and clutch. Any recomendations on what clutch to run. Was looking at exedy stage 1 kit. You guys are a huge help. Thanks for all the input.

 

Why? Stages don't mean anything. Haven't heard a single power goal from you. How do you even know that clutch will handle the power you plan on putting down? PSI don't mean ****. Where are you getting this magic PSI number from?

 

nothing wrong with honda valves and no need for valve springs unless u have a cam that requires them. buy a complete kit building ur own will be a headache. ive seen full kits with decent turbos for 1k-1500

 

whats your budget?

 

I've seen a few d16s with stock internals running 8-10 lbs and producing close to 200hp. I was only going to do maybe 7 or 8lbs. Exedy stage 1 is good for 257 ft/lbs. Just want a strong reliable clutch is all. I would like to keep a budget of around 1k.

 

psi doesn't mean a thing, its all about the turbo
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/guide-answer-common-question-just-bought-civic-how-do-i-make-faster-2915974/

READ THIS

http://www.beesandgoats.com/boostfaq/g2icturbo.html

 

Turbo a car for $1k? Not happening. Your tune and engine management will run you that almost by itself even if you cheaped out and got an Ebay kit. Now if you don't have the budget to tune then go get the Ebay kit, a basemapped ECU, run that on a totally stock engine and that may last you a month or two before you blow it up.

Again. PSI doesn't mean anything to anyone but the tuner. Your goal is to set a horsepower figure and then find out which turbo flows enough CFM and remains efficient while doing it.

 

I've failed to do the research...however what does happen when a motor blows? Is everything trash? Turbo, Motor, Tranny etc? or Just the motor?

In any case to OP. I plan on turbo'ing my D Series this coming summer. I want to hit 200 whp. My plan is to buying everything used but the Turbo, and Fuel Injectors. Might even do the intercooler....and MAYYYY-Be the BOV.

Price is a minimum of $1,500-$2,000 for the kit and I haven't looked at tuning yet. I'm on a budget for cars (believe in more investing it to growth...rather than shrink) so I planning on researching how to tune myself.

Anyways if you have MSN I'm in the same stages as you and we can learn together from our trials and errors.

Good luck with the project.

 

You can piece together a relatively cheap setup if you take your time. I had right around $1k into everything with my stock Y8 including tune. It lasted 12k miles, but now I'm spending big bucks after I built my motor. Went through 2 turbos, now debating whether I want to go all out or keep to the budget. Sometimes I wish I kept my stock motor in there and left it how it was.

 

get a volkswagen if u want a turdbo

 

My tune and s300 alone was over 1k

 

I turboed my stock d16z6 about a couple months ago. A buddy of mine upgraded his mazdaspeed so i used his stock speed6 Ko4 turbo and machined it to match to a Crx hf manifold flange then just weld and bend the downpipe. The turbo itself is to small that even if you're from 9 to 12psi wouldn't make a whole lot of difference depends on the tune, but then again psi doesn't mean anything. I cranked it up to 17 psi one time just for **** and giggles it broke lose on 2nd. Lol. "Not suggested on stock block"

Honestly I haven't dynoed it yet, but small turbo like t25s and so on are great for daily driver almost instantaneous boost, though not as great on high end as 50trims. To give you an idea what it will do in quarter mile I'll share mine. I ran mid to low 14s all day on street tire ranging 2.2 to 2.3 60ft on a bf Goodrich summer tire. That's with street tune on crome 9.5* of timing with 11.9 Afr.

Now to answer your question blowing the motor could mean a lot of things. Cheap ebay turbo does tend to go sooner -Shaft plays/blown seals that's why I use Oem "at the least."
With motor: Check the compression first specially if it has a lot of miles on it.
The old oil pump usually is the culprit with this problems, worn piston rings causing it to smoke. It can be as simple as blowing headgasket to spunning a bearing. Don't worry about your transmission. Lol. "JUst make sure to at least put arp studs when you boost a stock motor.

1k budget is very possible if you're doing your own work specially with the tuning. I pieced mine and cost me about that budget more or less. Machine shop is what kills you once you decide to to go bigger. Just remember once you boost, you never come back >>>> I'm building a built block on the side. Jajaja...

This is getting to long just thought I'd share my experience regarding your question.

Just check my stock build here:
http://www.d-series.org/forums/force...ay-k04-z6.html

Have fun boosting!
Jun

 

there are pretty good reads in the forced induction portion of this forum.

Just boosted my gsr hatch. Didnt buy a kit because I know I could do it for cheaper, but I did come to just under two thousand dollars and thats with some awesome steals, fuel pump and fuel injectors included and thats not including the excess stuff I have collected over the years in my garage. If you count the crome pro and the burn2, I'm well over two thousand bucks. Well worth it though, virtual dyno'd at 296 hp and 222 ft/lbs torque.

 

resurrecting shitty thread about how much booost. Bad enough people ask that question, even worse it gets Bumped 9 months later.

 

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