So I purchased a jdm b18c bottom end with type r internal and spoon sports pistons. Has 900 miles on it. Its a fresh rebuilt bottom end that was broke in on dyno. Head has like 4k on fresh rebuild but still on b16a2 block. One question is does anyone know what compression ratio do these spoon pistons yeild? Second, below ill list my parts list but I'm still trying to figure out the cams to buy? Don't want it to turn into a war on sk2 are so awesome and blox are crap and my frends said they ran blox and they broke blah blah blah. Show proof and back up your statements please. My goal is 200+whp and for dyno idc what dyno its on any dyno I want it over 200.00 whp. Also this is going in a full interior ej1.

Block
-b18c-R (81.5mm)
-p73 internals
-spoon sports authentic pistons
-cometic 2 layer head gasket
-Arp head studs
-Afi Breather catch can setup
-all new gaskets

Head
-pnp head
-supertech valvesprings, retainers and keepers
-new oem valves
-3 angle valve job
-itr intake manifold
-itr throttle body
-skunk2 cam seal
-itr cams
-toda cam gears
-hytech replica header big tube
-Gates racing timing belt

Fuel
-walbro 255mlp
-slowmotion fuel rail
-new high flow fuel filter
-blox fpr and gauge
-rc engineering 370cc injectors

Ignition
-ngk iridium plugs
-ngk wires

Intake
-3" tube with velocity stack

Exhaust
-real 2.5" CTR authentic exhaust with password jdm test pipe.

 

No input? nobody recommending cams and nobody knows what cr spoon pistons are?

 

More than likely you're going to need to CC the pistons to get an accurate measurment to find the compression. Spoon doesn't just throw out their specs for anyone to see.
On a side note, upgrading cams will only do so much with having a B16 IM and TB on a 1.8. You have a bottle neck and your power is going to be low because of that.

 

Alright so your sayin to switch both intake manifold and tb as well and what would you recommend for those?

 

Regards the IM and TB, Go with the tried and tested! Skunk2, Edelbrock or a ported Type R IM should work well!

Some guys will tell you most of the "Big Tube" headers are designed for 2.0 setups or big build 1.8s

 

spoon pistons are nothing more than balanced p73's

 

Well thanks for the info on the pistons! Much appreciated any suggestions on cams?

 

Skunk2 Pro 1s. On average they seem to make the most power out of the type setup you are aiming for. As far as 200whp, that all depends on the dyno, they can literally be off by 10-15% which can be 20-30whp at that range.

 

Oh ok. Well ive decided to buy pro 1s and toda cam gears from blueR. I also purchased an itr throttle body and itr intake manifold.

 

your build is close to mine and Spoon is nothing but Honda made parts. Also B16 manifold will kill your TopEnd power, but it will give you more Torque, on the other hand a good header will make up the torque.That manifold is designed for smaller motor. Sk2/ITR is perfect. Your compression should be around 11.2- 11.4:1 depending on the head being milled. Don't expect over 200whp if you hit it cool, but hope for 190 - 198 range

 

Buying itr cams and itr manifold with throttle body satuday!

 

Here's a clip of my build
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIr5_...eature=related

 

Whats even more weird than our motor setups being so much alike is our ej1s are the same color lol i have white wheels tho and no fogs is only differnce. Nice build man anymore stuff on youtube?

 

I've added some more stuff like the carbon hood, and i'm getting new front lip and will make new video with dyno run just been busy, But i do have a video of the motor fist start up

 

Love that cf hood actually looks good on our paradice green coupes! Whats the link for start up. Would provide some motivation for me im sure.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqzxo...eature=related

 

its alive!!! Gotta see some pulls man! Great job!

 

What cams did you go with?

 

I have 00 ITR cams which is the same as CTR cams. I'm installing my Wavetrac LSD today my Kaaz LSD got messed up so I'll be on the Dyno next week waiting on my Hondata.

 

Nice! Do you think 200whp is obtainable on ctr cams? I still havent purchased cams because idk for sure what to go with...

 

if so i'm sure it's very hard, If I was you I would go bigger in cams like SK2,Toda,Jun etc. The only reason I"m not is because I'm racing in Honda Challenge everything has to be honda base stock. If you want 200whp don't sale yourself short go with high lift cams

 

Alright well then i probably will just wanna remain reliable.

 

Think of a motor as an air pump. The more air you get in and out efficiently the more power you make. The cams in determine where the power band will be.. It just depends what you are doing with the car. If its a daily driver I would say itr cams, but if you're going to spend time at 4k plus, sk2, crower, and a few other manufactures can help you out. An larger throttle body, intake manifold and a QUALITY header will do the motor justice. It jus depends on how deep your pockets are. Hope my 2 cents helped.

 

Yea man of course it helped...the more the marrier. yea its gunna be a dd for like a year at most but i guess if i can get a deal on cams ill take em...whatever they may be.