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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 10:37 PM
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Like a dumbass yesterday, I miss shifted into 2nd from 3rd at around 6k rpms, now the engine/car is vibrating and sounds strange. I immediately hit the clutch and dropped it into 4th, but apparently that wasn't soon enough.

Engine is a b16a. There are no metallic sounds occurring, but it almost sounds like it is putt putting at idle and lower gears/rpms and I didn't notice it till after I had parked and started the next day.

I'm wondering if I may have bent a valve or if it's something more serious. Any help would be appreciated, I feel like a complete idiot that this has happened.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 10:47 PM
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Compression test.

1-2-1 and 2-3-2's normally do some damage.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 10:57 PM
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Compression test is in then works and should happen either tomorrow or Wednesday.
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 05:50 AM
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I worked at Honda years ago as a detailer, a customer did the exact same thing and had to get his engine replaced. Rev limiters work on the gas but not down-shifting .
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 08:07 AM
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So the compression test is as follows.
1 3 2 4
65 190 185 185

So yeah, cylinders 1 is a good bit off.

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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 08:11 AM
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Buy an automatic and call it a day.
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 08:12 AM
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Pull the head. Check the valves.
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 08:12 AM
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Those numbers shouldn't give you those symptoms. Did u try oil over top of the piston? was the motor hot or cold on the compression test?
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 08:12 AM
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Cracked a valve or something.
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 08:21 AM
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Those numbers shouldn't give you those symptoms.
Curious. Why not?
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 08:29 AM
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Those numbers shouldn't give you those symptoms. Did u try oil over top of the piston? was the motor hot or cold on the compression test?
Yeah I'm actually curious too? Can you explain yourself?
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 08:33 AM
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Everything I've read says cracked, bent or floated valve.
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 08:42 AM
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I'll gaurntee he cracked a valve
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 09:06 AM
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I fixed the numbers, I posted the wrong ones. And it's cylinder 1 that's bad with only 65 pounds. I'll have to pull the head this weekend. and yeah, I was figuring that I messed a valve up. What an awesome mistake to be had.
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 09:26 AM
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Idk how you missed shifted anyway lol
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 09:29 AM
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Bent valve, happend to my friends B18C5 when racing. 3rd to 2nd at about 8.5 k. Two Bent valves on number 2 cylinder. We fixed it in about an hour.
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 10:22 AM
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Yes, pull the head check the valves. Hopefully you only bent valves.

I did a 1-2-1 bent 2 valves, and ****ed up the piston in my buddy's built GSR. lol
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 10:24 AM
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Curious have you compression tested before this happened, just to compare numbers.
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 10:30 AM
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Curious have you compression tested before this happened, just to compare numbers.
What? Who cares what it would have tested like before. NOW compression in cylinder #1 is fubarred.
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 10:44 AM
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Those numbers shouldn't give you those symptoms.
its off a bunch its making the other cylnders work twice as hard to spin that crank I but that thing has one hell of a jerky idle and is very sluggish through the rpms..
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DelSol-B18
Idk how you missed shifted anyway lol
Just a stupid mistake I guess, I'm not real sure how I did it either to tell you the truth. In all the years I've driven stick, I've never done something this stupid. Guess I'm going to be paying for it now :/


Appreciate the help guys. Like I said, I'll be pulling the head this weekend, and I pray to baby jesus that it's only a bent valve or 2.
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 11:47 AM
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Were you cat-pawing the shifter (placing the palm of the hand over the top of the shift ****)? When I've heard/seen a misshift happen, most of the time the person shifting was cat-pawing the shifter. I always grab the shifter so the palm is on the right side of the shift **** and have never made this mistake, neither during normal DDing or at the track. Pull to the left while shifting for 1/2. Let the shifter go where it wants for 3/4, and push to the right while shifting for 5th.

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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DelSol-B18
Idk how you missed shifted anyway lol
it happens all the time, it's really easy to do.

Pro racers have issues too.
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 12:01 PM
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it happens all the time, it's really easy to do.

Pro racers have issues too.
I've done it. Never at ridiculous RPMs though.
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by grumblemarc
I've done it. Never at ridiculous RPMs though.
eh, I've done it twice, but the last time I was going slow, at about 3-4k

The first time I did it at like 8900. lol
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