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After clutch install, not shifting into ANY gear with engine on

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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 05:22 PM
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Hey guys, today I replaced my clutch on my sedan 2000 and at the end when everything was back in place, the car WILL not shift when its on, but when its off it goes 1-4 and half of 5th gear. I used the spline tool to align the clutch during the install. Now I have to do it all over again but would like to know what the possible problem might be, PLEASE HELP!!!!!
I followed the instructions from these DIYs (they're both the same thing):
http://www.honda-acura.net/forums/do...l-58-pics.html
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/diy-how-act-clutch-install-d16y8-any-sohc-dohc-more-923640/

I also replaced the rear main seal since I was down there.
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 05:54 PM
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Bleed/Replace the clutch slave cylinder.
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 09:06 PM
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Bleed/Replace the clutch slave cylinder.
I did bleed the slave cylinder thinking it might fix the problem but it didnt.
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 09:11 PM
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Is the clutch pedal soft or spongy?

When the pedal is pushed down, does the slave cylinder move the clutch fork?
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 04:17 AM
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You may not have lined up the end of the slave cylinder with the dimple in the release fork (easy fix) or the release fork wasn't installed right (requires dropping the tranny to fix)
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 04:22 AM
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Default Re: After clutch install, not shifting into ANY gear with engine on

i had a similar problem. had a good pedal, even replaced the slave, the fork was engaging, i just dropped the tranny and re torqued the clutch down to spec and put it back on and it was fine.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
Is the clutch pedal soft or spongy?
When the pedal is pushed down, does the slave cylinder move the clutch fork?
The clutch pedal is pretty loose, kinda like if there was air in the system but I bled the line yeaterday after the install properly. The slave cylinder moves, but maybe its not moving the fork, maybe the reason why I cant shift with the car on

Originally Posted by 94EG8
You may not have lined up the end of the slave cylinder with the dimple in the release fork (easy fix) or the release fork wasn't installed right (requires dropping the tranny to fix)
Yeah that could be the problem, it might have become loose when lining up the trany again in all the wiggling back n forth, but uf thats it, how would it be an easy fix? Doesn the tranny need to be off again to align it properly?

Originally Posted by tdizz07
i had a similar problem. had a good pedal, even replaced the slave, the fork was engaging, i just dropped the tranny and re torqued the clutch down to spec and put it back on and it was fine.
Thats what I dont wanna do but I'll do it as a last resort I guess

Thanks guys, I'll work on it today after work with whatever sunlight I can get and report back with good or bad news, hopefully good
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 08:33 AM
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Very slim chance but you might have to adjust the free play at the pedal.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 08:39 AM
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Default Re: After clutch install, not shifting into ANY gear with engine on

Bleeding the clutch will not resolve the problem. It is mechanical...such as the clutch fork. More than likely, that's the case. Too bad you have to remove the transmission in order to get to it.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 06:53 PM
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Update 2/06: my dad n I took the tranny off again and checked the fork and clutch bearing and seemed fine, the tranny pibot point where the fork grabs on was between the spring, so its: spring, pivot, fork. Next idea is to remove the pressure plate and retorque the bolts back to spec n hope that solves it. Any advice/things to watch out for to avoid doing the same thing again?
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 10:58 AM
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I'm also going to replace the slave cylinder in case thats the problem, hopefully this time itll work after everything goes back up. Quick question, does it matter if the car was in gear when the tranny came off for the first time? Cuz I dont remember if it was or in neutral.
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 11:03 AM
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Default Re: After clutch install, not shifting into ANY gear with engine on

Are you sure the clutch disc isn't installed backwards? The flat part goes towards the flywheel and the raised side goes into the pressure plate.
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 11:12 AM
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Default Re: After clutch install, not shifting into ANY gear with engine on

Originally Posted by fxrob
Are you sure the clutch disc isn't installed backwards? The flat part goes towards the flywheel and the raised side goes into the pressure plate.
THIS

did this in my mr2 back in the day... lol... its easy to miss if you dont think about it.
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by lxdriver
I'm also going to replace the slave cylinder in case thats the problem, hopefully this time itll work after everything goes back up. Quick question, does it matter if the car was in gear when the tranny came off for the first time? Cuz I dont remember if it was or in neutral.
It doesn't make a bit of difference what gear it was in.

Originally Posted by fxrob
Are you sure the clutch disc isn't installed backwards? The flat part goes towards the flywheel and the raised side goes into the pressure plate.
Can't be done on any Honda I've ever done, the pressure plate will sit out at least half an inch away from the flywheel.
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Old Feb 8, 2012 | 06:07 PM
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***** this ****!!!! (Cuz it wont let me put it with the F) I put everything back again and still gives me problems so I'm just gonna take the damn car to a phucken mechanic and pay to have it done. I'm phucken tired of this ****!!! Thanks for all your help guys.

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