I'm not sure if this is appropriate-

But I was hoping someone with a little more experience would be able to give me a hand on a basemap for a stock GSR that I could work with. This is my first car tuning on my own, so I want to take it slow as I can. I've gone through a couple of EFI courses now, and figure this is a good way to get my classes (I teach Industrial Mechanics at a HS) more involved with EFI. Seems to be mostly older carb'd stuff around here and it'll be good experience for them and me to go over maps.

Now a couple of questions- should I leave the IAB on or disable in hondata? Most of the maps I've found are for cars which have aftermarket intake manifolds. Any thoughts on that?

Beyond that, the setup is a SPA top mount, turbonetics super 60 and deltagate with 7-9psi spring, 3" downpipe - 2.5" exhaust, RC High Imp 550's. But anything that will get me started will work. Closest I have found on the Hondata forums that is still active is the stock B18C5 revhard kit w/ SC61. Would that be at all close to what I need?

Thanks for the help.

Also, since I'm sure it will be asked, the S300 is the one out of my racecar, and therefore when I bought it I got a basemap... for an ITB'd GSR. That does me no good now

 

Do you have a Wideband with gauge installed in the car?

Are you taking the car to a tuner?

If so, then the only thing you need to worry about will be AF due to the change in your injectors. Simply input the new injector value into Hondata and you should be able to get the car started.
Then adjust fuel as needed based off input from your wideband gauge.

 

Thanks for the response. Did you read the post or skim? I will be tuning the car myself, after taking several EFI classes this summer. It is my first tune. I am looking for a good basemap to start from, utilizing the STOCK gsr intake manifold as opposed to an aftermarket "Type R" style runner manifold.

Any thoughts on using the IAB's with boost?

And yes, the car has wideband as well as an EGT and knock sensor.

 

You took EFI classes. Didn't they teach you how to make your own base maps to start tuning from?

Not sure that using IABs on a boosted build will add anything. Most guys tend to get rid of them and gut the manifold or run aftermarket manifolds.

IABs are more for the N/A higher RPM power bands. They are used to help keep some extra tq down low. However, if your turbo doesn't start spooling until mid range in the RPM. The IAB's could be tuned to work in the lower RPM range as intended. You would have to tune them in conjunction with your turbo.

 

I understand stock IAB function, was just curious if anyone had used them on a turbo build, because as you said, most people tend to just disable them or run an aftermarket manifold.

I guess my best bet is to build a map from the stock map then. Yes, that is what they said to do in class, but it was also suggested that if there is a good basemap it can cut down the work a bit. Since I only have a 50 min class period to teach in, a basemap would help me get to the meat of the tuning with my students quicker.

Thanks for the advice.

 

Isn't the old adage "60% of a teachers salary is earned at home"?...lol At least that's what my 2 sisters always say. Both teachers of 15+ years.

This is where you as a teacher do the grunt work and go into class with your own base map. That is the best way to really learn more about what you are doing.

Maybe someone will be kind enough to drop a bin/cal for you...... Unfortunately I don't use any Hondata products so I am unable to help that way.

Wish you the best of luck

 

the addage is appropriate

 

just use a stock gsr this will be a "good" basemap. Really simple, then make sure your injector offsets are correct and then add your boost tables. Why are you trying to keep the iab's? imo they will just add to confusion.
I don't use hondata products either or I would give you map. btw on team integra their is a 150 skunk intake manifold.

 

if you took the classes as you claim then sit down and do the math if you want to build a proper basemap.

 

Thanks for the input. Did you read the thread? I've been working on it every night. I was hoping to finish it up this week. Having a base map would save me a lot of time and keep my class on schedule. Either way, the classes weren't how to tune classes, they were EFI theory for modern cars.

No sweat off my back.

 

We provide a free basmap to customers who buy systems from us. I wish you bought the system from us so you could be rocking & rolling already.

 

start off with a GSR base map, put in your injector and MAP sensor parameters and add fuel/pull timing for the boost parts of the map.

start off with 1 deg of timing per psi of boost and add fuel with whatever Hondata recommends.

 

I really appreciate your service. I bought my s200 and numerous other parts from you guys for many other projects. Due to the budget nature of this project, though, I am using an ECU I bought previously when I updated the s200. Really appreciate the customer support you guys have. Always point people your direction.

Have built the map, idles nicely and adjusted the fuel trim and cold temp trim. Just need to tune it now!

 

http://hondata.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=4391

Here's a gsr tune with your turbo but 100cc smaller injectors which if you have a wideband then youll be alright. Just change the new injector size from 440 to 550 and check the map sensor.