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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 07:16 AM
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Need help! I have a b16 in my crx. Would a jackson supercharger fit? I have hassport mounts. And if so do you have any pics
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 07:38 AM
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just because you have HAsport mounts dont mean anything....JRSC arent made for b16a SiR1
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 07:38 AM
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 08:18 AM
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they are the only ones that I have ever seen do it. The brake master cylinder gets in the way.
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Old Oct 20, 2002 | 05:56 AM
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What about in a 86 Civic Si with a B16A conversion adding a JR Supercharger. Anyone ever try that? Or shall I be the first...

Mike
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Old Oct 20, 2002 | 07:46 AM
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Need help! I have a b16 in my crx. Would a jackson supercharger fit? I have hassport mounts. And if so do you have any pics
Please do an Archive search. I know personally that I have posted on this topic like 5 thousand times.

just because you have HAsport mounts dont mean anything....JRSC arent made for b16a SiR1
Please research before you post wrong info. The JRSC for the 99-00 Si and the JRSC for the ITR both works fine with the 1st gen B16a. He is stating he has Hasport mount because of the difference in engine placements between the different mount kits.

they are the only ones that I have ever seen do it. The brake master cylinder gets in the way:
The master doesnt get in the way. If you use the Type-R kit, I personally have installed like 6 of these kits on a 1st gen B16a and had ZERO brake master cylinder clearance problems. John at LHT was the one of the people who help me setup my EF + B18c + JR @ 13psi. The only clearance issues is with the heater control lever/hose on the firewall, and when you use the Hasport kit, the fuel filter is probably going to have to be moved.

What about in a 86 Civic Si with a B16A conversion adding a JR Supercharger. Anyone ever try that? Or shall I be the first.:
LOL Good luck. There is going to be some nice cutting of the firewall there. Post some pics when it is done definately.

Jason
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Old Oct 20, 2002 | 11:30 AM
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yo dont be sour man,
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 06:36 AM
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yo dont be sour man,
are you for real??!?!
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 07:30 AM
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LOL Good luck. There is going to be some nice cutting of the firewall there. Post some pics when it is done definately.

Jason
Anyone offhand know how far out the supercharger sticks past the original intake manifold? I haven't had a chance to measure the differences. It just doesn't seem like it would be much more if any. Its a StreetMod Solo 2 car, so modification of the firewall is fine to fit the motor and components in there. There shouldn't be any clearance problems with the master cylinder either. I'll get it to fit...

Mike
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 09:50 AM
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I personally don't think superchargers on 4 cylinders are worth the money. get a turbo they're much better.
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 10:31 AM
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Anyone offhand know how far out the supercharger sticks past the original intake manifold? I haven't had a chance to measure the differences. It just doesn't seem like it would be much more if any. Its a StreetMod Solo 2 car, so modification of the firewall is fine to fit the motor and components in there. There shouldn't be any clearance problems with the master cylinder either. I'll get it to fit...

Mike
Mike, do you have or have you seen the clearance in the bay of an 86 with a B16a in it? There is like 1-2 inches of clearance. The blower sticks out approximately 2-3 inches more, but also it sits alot lower. It is very similar to a Gsr manifold as far as placement goes. So I would take an old gsr manifold....drill the holes to make it fit, and use that as a rough base template.


I personally don't think superchargers on 4 cylinders are worth the money. get a turbo they're much better.
Have you ever done one on a Bseries engine? My car ran 12.7 with a 2.4-2.5 60' time. That is on a Gsr with a B16a head in my 2400 lb EF. Yes, you will make more power with the turbo, but I think in his case he wants to auto-x his car and thus a JR would be more beneficial.
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 05:00 AM
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Mike, do you have or have you seen the clearance in the bay of an 86 with a B16a in it? There is like 1-2 inches of clearance. The blower sticks out approximately 2-3 inches more, but also it sits alot lower. It is very similar to a Gsr manifold as far as placement goes. So I would take an old gsr manifold....drill the holes to make it fit, and use that as a rough base template.
Actually I happen to own an '86 with a B16a and the clearance of the intake manifold to the firewall is more like 1-2 millimeters using the Hasport mounts. I'm hoping since the sc sits a few inches lower than the stock manifold (where there's more space) that it will take a minimal amount of persuading to get it to fit. I'll try emailing Jackson and see if I can get a clarification on the size difference. Will let you know what I find out...

Mike
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 05:21 AM
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Yes they fit :

Kurt,
You will need to adapt the supercharger from the Civic Si with the B16A2
engine, our part number 989-250. The adaptation possibly involves cutting a
relief in our manifold in order to clear the thermostat housing. The
supercharger will fit in the engine bay, especially if the engine is rocked
a little more forward in the engine bay.

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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 10:25 AM
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Yes they fit :


Kurt,
You will need to adapt the supercharger from the Civic Si with the B16A2
engine, our part number 989-250. The adaptation possibly involves cutting a
relief in our manifold in order to clear the thermostat housing. The
supercharger will fit in the engine bay, especially if the engine is rocked
a little more forward in the engine bay.

Regards,


Jim Watts
Jackson Racing Sales
Moss Motors, Ltd.
(800) 689-9306
(805) 692-2523 - Fax
I dont think that Jackson knows that you are putting it in a 86-87 crx. It will fit no problems in a 88-91. But the clearance between the firewall and the intake manifold on the 86-87 is some small, I KNOW it will hit the firewall. I will try and do it soon and take some pics.

Jason
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 11:20 AM
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you're information so far has been very helpful! i just needed some clarification on the following:

The JRSC for the 99-00 Si and the JRSC for the ITR both works fine with the 1st gen B16a. He is stating he has Hasport mount because of the difference in engine placements between the different mount kits.

The master doesnt get in the way. If you use the Type-R kit, I personally have installed like 6 of these kits on a 1st gen B16a and had ZERO brake master cylinder clearance problems. John at LHT was the one of the people who help me setup my EF + B18c + JR @ 13psi.
so if i have the same situation as originally posted (b16a1 in second gen crx with hasport mounts), do i use the 99-00 civic si kit? or do i use the type R kit?

The only clearance issues is with the heater control lever/hose on the firewall...
what is the solution to this?


thankyou!
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 12:10 PM
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It's great to be able to walk over to the computer and find out the solutions to so many of my problems

I have one question, pretty much the same question that Keebler65 is asking....

I have an '89 civic wagon that i will be doing a 1g b16a swap into shortly. Would i go with the 99-00 Si supercharger or would i go with the ITR model? I have a friend that has a '00 jrsc gsr making 210whp and i would love to see those kind of numbers coming out of a wagon
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 04:32 PM
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anyone???
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 09:35 PM
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you're information so far has been very helpful! i just needed some clarification on the following:

so if i have the same situation as originally posted (b16a1 in second gen crx with hasport mounts), do i use the 99-00 civic si kit? or do i use the type R kit?


The only clearance issues is with the heater control lever/hose on the firewall...


what is the solution to this?


thankyou!
I am not 100% sure on the differences in the kits. I have only installed the ITR kit on all of the EFs that I have done. If I am not mistaken the ITR kit comes with a larger blower. It also comes with a fuel pump as well. Also, it sets the manifold, down ever so slightly but not too much.

The fix on the heater adjustment, was to unbolt the bracket that is hooked to the firewall, and either bend the bracket and drill/tap a new hole, or elghetto style and zip tie it to the heater core hoses. Either method works fine.
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 11:42 PM
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my buddy has a 91 hatch with a ls-vtec supercharged motor and his only clearance problem is the crank pully with the crossmember braces if the car is lowered too far. (he still has the stock crossmember) he is using place racing mounts
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Old Oct 24, 2002 | 09:53 AM
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all i know is that from what i've heard, the few people that have this setup use the 99-00 civic si kit. the only reason i asked was because i had never heard of the brake booster clearance problem before. does anyone else know if we should use the civic or ITR kit???

thanks for the replies!
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Old Oct 24, 2002 | 10:09 AM
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the Itr kit is the one that fits best.
It will fit without issues on any b16a with HCP or HASport mounts.
clearance will be tight. but should not be an issue.
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Old Oct 24, 2002 | 10:14 AM
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ok thats good to know. so i assume that the bolt pattern on the intake mani is also identical between the type R and the b16a1? i just want to double check all of this before i buy the wrong kit
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Old Oct 24, 2002 | 11:00 AM
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yes all b series with the exception of the b18b and the b18c1 are the same.
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Old Oct 25, 2002 | 12:58 AM
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Buy the ITR kit. You will get a bigger blower, high flow fuel pump and better clearances.
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Old Oct 25, 2002 | 10:47 AM
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sounds good. except i would assume that the high flow fuel pump that it comes with wouldnt fit in my crx??? since its meant for the ITR?

thankyou
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